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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 04:44 PM
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pardon my ignorance but why would someone need an AR in the back seat? I can understand having a side arm in the event you need to protect yourself. Its my understanding that 70% of all fire fights happen within 7 yards and last all of 5-10 seconds. I have been taught that a side arm is to give you an opportunity to escape the situation, shoot and retreat, force the bad guy to look for cover (if you don't drop him first) and give yourself an opportunity to get the hell out of there. to me an AR in the back seat is an offensive posture, not defensive.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 04:56 PM
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The 10" SBR is behind the seat & the CZ stays on my side. Va is very gun savy.



How do you like that CZ? It's double action correct?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Joneser5000
pardon my ignorance but why would someone need an AR in the back seat? I can understand having a side arm in the event you need to protect yourself. Its my understanding that 70% of all fire fights happen within 7 yards and last all of 5-10 seconds. I have been taught that a side arm is to give you an opportunity to escape the situation, shoot and retreat, force the bad guy to look for cover (if you don't drop him first) and give yourself an opportunity to get the hell out of there. to me an AR in the back seat is an offensive posture, not defensive.
Your pistol is a tool to get you to your rifle.

 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 05:20 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Joneser5000
pardon my ignorance but why would someone need an AR in the back seat? I can understand having a side arm in the event you need to protect yourself. Its my understanding that 70% of all fire fights happen within 7 yards and last all of 5-10 seconds. I have been taught that a side arm is to give you an opportunity to escape the situation, shoot and retreat, force the bad guy to look for cover (if you don't drop him first) and give yourself an opportunity to get the hell out of there. to me an AR in the back seat is an offensive posture, not defensive.
We shoot daily and I'm not loading/unloading firearms twice a day, small shoulder pac is enough.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Offshore530
How do you like that CZ? Its double action correct?
I had this built for me from their custom shop in Arizona, Super accurate, Light weight, The only one I carry and I have a lot of choices.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 05:29 PM
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exactly
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Your pistol is a tool to get you to your rifle.

 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Joneser5000
pardon my ignorance but why would someone need an AR in the back seat? I can understand having a side arm in the event you need to protect yourself. Its my understanding that 70% of all fire fights happen within 7 yards and last all of 5-10 seconds. I have been taught that a side arm is to give you an opportunity to escape the situation, shoot and retreat, force the bad guy to look for cover (if you don't drop him first) and give yourself an opportunity to get the hell out of there. to me an AR in the back seat is an offensive posture, not defensive.
The best defense is a good offense. Trained operators almost universally choose shoulder weapons over handguns. But the main reason people want an AR in the back seat is because it's their right to have it there.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 07:19 PM
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I fully support ones constitutional rights, and applaud those that are responsible gun owners. When I was barely 18 I slept with a weapon almost every night for a year. Later on, and for 27 years I carried one daily, and can still carry anywhere in the US. But when I pulled the pin and retired, that is one of the things I put away. Hell, it was only a couple of years ago that I started carrying a cell phone. All of it just reminded me too much of work.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 09:13 PM
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For those of you using magnets to hold your weapon in your truck. Be advised, it WILL become dislodged in a crash. I don't have any data that shows at what point, but I would guess that anything over 10 -20 mph would be sufficient to send your pistol bouncing around the cab of your truck like a proverbial pinball.

It amazed me how far my cell phone flew when I got run off the road a few years ago. It was between my thigh and the seat so I was literally sitting on it. I left the road at about 55 and ran down into the median of a divided highway (US 441), I collided with a sign post and my momentum carried me up and over a turn lane. I got the car stopped in the median on the other side of the turn lane. No sudden stops, no erratic evasive maneuvers, and the only thing I hit was the sign post. Somehow the phone I was literally sitting on ended up in the passenger floorboard with the cup of water from my cup holder dumped out on top of it. The car I was driving had a console so the phone had to go up and over it. I guess the moral of the rather long story is if it's not bolted down or encased in either the glove box or console it will move around during a crash.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 10:10 PM
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I have seen reports of unsecured spare tires in trunks going through the back seat and decapitating passengers.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by reseehc_99
For those of you using magnets to hold your weapon in your truck. Be advised, it WILL become dislodged in a crash. I don't have any data that shows at what point, but I would guess that anything over 10 -20 mph would be sufficient to send your pistol bouncing around the cab of your truck like a proverbial pinball.

It amazed me how far my cell phone flew when I got run off the road a few years ago. It was between my thigh and the seat so I was literally sitting on it. I left the road at about 55 and ran down into the median of a divided highway (US 441), I collided with a sign post and my momentum carried me up and over a turn lane. I got the car stopped in the median on the other side of the turn lane. No sudden stops, no erratic evasive maneuvers, and the only thing I hit was the sign post. Somehow the phone I was literally sitting on ended up in the passenger floorboard with the cup of water from my cup holder dumped out on top of it. The car I was driving had a console so the phone had to go up and over it. I guess the moral of the rather long story is if it's not bolted down or encased in either the glove box or console it will move around during a crash.
All so true and unfortunately, not to be depressing, in a bad enough crash, even attached to your body will not keep it in place.
On the brighter side, as far as most guns go, it only goes bang when the trigger is pulled.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wb6anp
I have seen reports of unsecured spare tires in trunks going through the back seat and decapitating passengers.
Tom Mix was a famous movie star cowboy way back when, his neck was broken during a crash by a metal suitcase.

Anything not secured basically becomes a projectile in a crash.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 10:36 PM
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Back to the original question, I have been trying to figure out the best place as well. I have a LTC here in Texas, but I can't bring it into my office (bank), so it stays in the truck during work hours. I don't like the console vault bc it is not easily accessible. On my last truck truck I mounted a pancake style safe to the console, and I could leave it open and resting against my right leg the entire time I was in the truck, then shut it when leaving knowing it was secure. Can't figure out how to mount a similar safe on this one bc the storage pocket on the side of the console doesn't give me a flush mounting surface.

 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 12:55 AM
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I plan on putting a double magnet on the inside front of the center console. Don't think I will leave one there all the time, but when I'm traveling it might be in there. And that does lock. I don't live in New York, so don't have that law to deal with.
 
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