Guys remember, this info stays here indefinitely. If you're involved in a shooting situation and end up in a civil "wrongful death" lawsuit you may not want an attorney's investigator to find some of this and use it against you.

 

I haven't read one person's post on here that is doing something illegal with their firearm(s).

 

I could have compromised posters accounts on this page/forum and posted comments on their behalf invalidating any accountability or creditability of posts.

Just sayin.

 

You could do that, but that is also detectable and traceable. If an established user's posts have all mostly come from a particular IP address in a particular area, and then suddenly are coming from your area (and possibly the actual user's area nearly simultaneously) then it is obvious what has happened.

 

The short answer is "because I can".

The longer answer would be in a situation whereby my handgun my not be adequate for the problem at hand and if I can get to the rifle I'm in a much better defensive posture.

Also, if I'm away from home, faced with a SHTF scenario, having such a rifle would be beneficial in my ability to get back to my home and my family.

Your statements are all correct and that's why I carry a handgun. In a more prolonged issue or more serious issue, the rifle would be my go to.

I'll give a local instance. My office is two miles from this wal mart. I drove by it one day 12 years ago and decided against stopping in to get dog food as it was late. If I had stopped I'd have been there for this shootout. A shootout in a wal mart parking lot, I'd rather have the rifle than a handgun.

Wal-Mart Employee In Critical Condition After Gun Battle In Fort Oglethorpe - Chattanoogan.com

In other news, the perp took a .45 round into the heart from a cop (as well as shotgun pellets in the body) and SURVIVED. I know because a buddy held his finger in the hole in the heart in the ER while they rushed the guy to the OR after cracking his chest to find the hole. The trauma surgeons at that hospital still talk about this case twelve years later.

It's always the bad guys who survive the one in a million odds.

 

Trov, I didn't mean my comment in that way at all. I'm as much for carrying a self defense weapon as anyone. Unfortunately, an unscrupulous attorney may represent a dirt ball that one of us end up having an altercation with. It wouldn't be helpful to one of us if that attorney could show a judge and jury (who are many times anti-gun) what could be painted as "boasting" of carrying the evil AR-15 and a handgun in their vehicle and on their person.


This is a little off subject, but yet probably good for the guys on this thread to read. One of my friends who is also a disabled Trooper was recently visiting his son for Christmas in another State. He found himself in a situation where he was forced to shoot a man who was attempting to rob him. The robber, who didn't expect my Buddy to be armed was severely wounded and begged for his life. My friend disarmed him and called an ambulance.
The Police have been very kind to him, but told him that if he had killed the robber, that he would have been jailed until the investigation was complete. It has been 4 months now, and had he killed that robber, he could still be sitting in jail.
He's still awaiting the findings of the investigators to see if he will face criminal charges, which is unlikely. The robber is suing him civilly for shooting him.
Now, here is where this story has meaning to all of us here. Would you want to be in my friends shoes? Would you want an attorney making you out to be a "Rambo" vigilante because it was learned that you also had an AR-15 in your truck?
I don't mean to insinuate that anyone has done wrong by posting what self defense weapons they are carrying. I find it very interesting reading. However, I'm just being the voice of reason, reminding us of what can happen and to be cautious of what you display for the world to read. It's highly unlikely, but it can bite you in the azz.

 

No problem RJC2, I wasn't calling you out specifically. I personally wouldn't shoot someone in an attempt to protect property...but sometimes these things escalate. Oftentimes a robbery attempt, even if that is all it is, makes the victim feel like they are in imminent danger. Best to be very aware of the laws of the state you live in.

 

I just remembered seeing this a few months ago. I'm pretty sure it was posted on this forum. Probably in the last thread about this topic, but beings there's renewed talk of long guns in trucks I figured I'd repost it.

 

Totally of subject, but we had a case here this week where 3 punks thought it would be a good idea to kick in the back door of a house. Little did they know the guy sleeping in his bedroom heard the noise and happened to have an AR15 in the room. All 3 punks died on the scene from .223
one managed to crawl to the driveway and bleed out the other 2 never made it out of the house. Score good guys 3, bad guys zero. Sad thing is there will be no criminal charges but I bet he gets sued.

 

I do like seeing the bad guy loose. Most of my training is on how not to be in a bad place. How to avoid using the firearm and being fast and accurate when you do.
This is a tool that when used has no do over. Know the law.

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In my perspective the first comment is how it should be.
Regrettably here in California the second comment is reality.

I'd like to add another layer of thought for consideration, which brings me to...

Mark's Truism of Life # 031:
Fault is irrelevant. What really matters is where the money is.

A further concern for me should one of our guns (the wife and I are both CCW licensed) be stolen from my truck, especially if they were not in a locked container, would be civil litigation.

In my experience in civil litigation the first consideration for those looking for "justice" is not who is truly at fault but rather where the best opportunity is to get to the money.

We all here have the ability to buy really expensive trucks, right?

Apologies to the OP for having drawn this further from the original question. Getting back to it however I ordered my '17 without the console vault as I would prefer to use that space otherwise. Once the truck is here I will experiment with other locations in the truck to attach a locked gun safe. If no good location turns up I plan to order the console vault.

 

Is the console vault from Ford actually intended for firearms or just as a safe for valuables?

 

The company, Console Vault, has their website saying it's for firearm safekeeping. But it can be used for both. I installed one to keep my weapon in there if I go someplace where I can't carry, such as a hospital. But I can see going to the beach at times and leaving valuables locked up in it.

 

It can be used for both. I have had one in each of 3 different vehicles, and it is very secure. The combo safe is better IMHO, I have also had the barrel and flat keyed versions. Since I usually keep the key on my keychain, it was a pain if the key was not accessible. I highly recommend it. Similar pricing for the vault on other retailer websites, and very easy to install (Maybe 15 minutes for someone like yourself who is not technically challenged).

 

Thanks Thumper and Mortock. What is the approximate cost?