RAM vs. CHEVY vs. FORD
Tuned
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Not true. TFL did this same test with the maximum RAM and the new F-450 towing 30k up the IKE. The 2017 F-450 was MUCH FASTER than the RAM, as expected. Of course the truck tested here and that 450 have the same engine, and gearing with the tire differences is nearly a wash. So kind of strange.
If the Ford was in regen mode, it would not make as much power. But what's the likelihood of an active regen happening towing that much weight up the IKE? It would be a passive regen all the way.
No way in real life that RAM is quicker. It is always the slowest of the bunch. But I'll give GM credit where it's due...those D-maxes have always been potent.
If the Ford was in regen mode, it would not make as much power. But what's the likelihood of an active regen happening towing that much weight up the IKE? It would be a passive regen all the way.
No way in real life that RAM is quicker. It is always the slowest of the bunch. But I'll give GM credit where it's due...those D-maxes have always been potent.
Cargo Master
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From: Central MO
Yes. That is the good thing about TFLTruck, they run essentially the same test, timing the runs from the same point to the same point, driving in near similar ways.
Hotshot
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From: NH
2017 Ford F-450 Platinum 6.7L towing 30,000lbs
2016 RAM 3500 Limited 6.7L with Aisin transmission towing 30,000lbs
Ford result: 11 minutes, 23 seconds and 2.3mpg
RAM result: 12 minutes, 29 seconds and 2.4mpg
Links:
Ford test: How Does the 2017 Ford Super Duty F-450 Tow 30,000 Lbs Up a Mountain? - Video - The Fast Lane Truck
RAM test: 2016 Ram 3500 HD Takes on the 30,000 Lbs Super Ike Towing Review - The Fast Lane Truck
Tuned
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ok thanks, good to know. So in this test towing ~23k, the f350 did it in 10:31.88. The f450 towing 30k did it in 11:23.00. Lol so with 7k more trailer weight and the increased weight of the 450 over the 350, the 350 was only ~51 seconds quicker? And the difference between the chevy and the Ford was 16 second? Lol ya something is going on with that 350.
Tuned
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Same exact test. To save time, here are the results:
2017 Ford F-450 Platinum 6.7L towing 30,000lbs
2016 RAM 3500 Limited 6.7L with Aisin transmission towing 30,000lbs
Ford result: 11 minutes, 23 seconds and 2.3mpg
RAM result: 12 minutes, 29 seconds and 2.4mpg
Links:
Ford test: How Does the 2017 Ford Super Duty F-450 Tow 30,000 Lbs Up a Mountain? - Video - The Fast Lane Truck
RAM test: 2016 Ram 3500 HD Takes on the 30,000 Lbs Super Ike Towing Review - The Fast Lane Truck
2017 Ford F-450 Platinum 6.7L towing 30,000lbs
2016 RAM 3500 Limited 6.7L with Aisin transmission towing 30,000lbs
Ford result: 11 minutes, 23 seconds and 2.3mpg
RAM result: 12 minutes, 29 seconds and 2.4mpg
Links:
Ford test: How Does the 2017 Ford Super Duty F-450 Tow 30,000 Lbs Up a Mountain? - Video - The Fast Lane Truck
RAM test: 2016 Ram 3500 HD Takes on the 30,000 Lbs Super Ike Towing Review - The Fast Lane Truck
Post Fiend
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From: North of Salt Lake City
It's easy to dismiss the results when they are as close as they are and the conversation today is pretty predictable. I of course think I made the right decision and would do the same thing again after the TFL results.
The thing I hate is the gloating going on over at the Cummins forum. It's going to be all in your face for the next several months. Just grossness. The difference is that the Ford crowd doesn't indulge in that. It's just like game day between rival schools. It doesn't matter if it's a blowout or a win by a field goal. A W is a W and we're going to hear about it over and over.
The thing I hate is the gloating going on over at the Cummins forum. It's going to be all in your face for the next several months. Just grossness. The difference is that the Ford crowd doesn't indulge in that. It's just like game day between rival schools. It doesn't matter if it's a blowout or a win by a field goal. A W is a W and we're going to hear about it over and over.
Hotshot
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From: NH
It's easy to dismiss the results when they are as close as they are and the conversation today is pretty predictable. I of course think I made the right decision and would do the same thing again after the TFL results.
The thing I hate is the gloating going on over at the Cummins forum. It's going to be all in your face for the next several months. Just grossness. The difference is that the Ford crowd doesn't indulge in that. It's just like game day between rival schools. It doesn't matter if it's a blowout or a win by a field goal. A W is a W and we're going to hear about it over and over.
The thing I hate is the gloating going on over at the Cummins forum. It's going to be all in your face for the next several months. Just grossness. The difference is that the Ford crowd doesn't indulge in that. It's just like game day between rival schools. It doesn't matter if it's a blowout or a win by a field goal. A W is a W and we're going to hear about it over and over.
I would really like to see this test repeated one more time with different (but exactly the same) trucks. I strongly feel the Ford *should* be quickest up this hill with any load, or at least neck and neck with the Chevy.
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From: Lititz, PA
I've watched quite a few of the comparisons in the past and I always thought the Ford came out on top usually...the results here are a bit surprising, that's for sure.
Did anyone dig up the comparisons from the '16 or prior super duty's?
Interesting, none the less.
Did anyone dig up the comparisons from the '16 or prior super duty's?
Interesting, none the less.
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Hotshot
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From: NH
Cargo Master
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From: Central MO
It's easy to dismiss the results when they are as close as they are and the conversation today is pretty predictable. I of course think I made the right decision and would do the same thing again after the TFL results.
The thing I hate is the gloating going on over at the Cummins forum. It's going to be all in your face for the next several months. Just grossness. The difference is that the Ford crowd doesn't indulge in that. It's just like game day between rival schools. It doesn't matter if it's a blowout or a win by a field goal. A W is a W and we're going to hear about it over and over.
The thing I hate is the gloating going on over at the Cummins forum. It's going to be all in your face for the next several months. Just grossness. The difference is that the Ford crowd doesn't indulge in that. It's just like game day between rival schools. It doesn't matter if it's a blowout or a win by a field goal. A W is a W and we're going to hear about it over and over.
Tuned
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By any objective measure, the Ford is, by far, the better overall truck.
DodgeRam has that raggedy Cummins (which is over-rated) and GM buys the cheapest damn interior and switchgear parts they can find.
The Ford costs the most because it is the better truck and despite the higher cost, it is the market leader.
People aren't dumb (well,most of 'em).
DodgeRam has that raggedy Cummins (which is over-rated) and GM buys the cheapest damn interior and switchgear parts they can find.
The Ford costs the most because it is the better truck and despite the higher cost, it is the market leader.
People aren't dumb (well,most of 'em).
Lead Driver
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From: Itinerant
Just wondering if the driver assist or whatever it's called would slow the truck down when passing or coming up on another vehicle and not really realize it? I would think they must of encountered some traffic out there.
