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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 12:04 PM
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Medium large project undertaking

Always regretted selling my 1988 ford diesel. It was a stick shift 4x regs cab. Very fun to drive. But I was a kid so when it developed a tranny noise I panicked and sold it. So, I bought a pile of crap in the form of a 2004 super dooty. It's a long bed ex cab, but had a stick shift!

It's got 330k on the clock, spicer rear end, and the famed 6.0. It's 4x4


What have I gotten myself into?! The truck isn't running and has a laundry list of engine issues including coolant blowing out under acceleration, hpop failing, weak injectors, oil leaks.

Compression is claimed to be good, but I'm thinking it would be easier and cheaper to fix up a used engine and swap it in. I'm open to other engines too, so I'd love to hear about options for that.

My research indicates that the 6.0 can be made to work well. For the money I have into the truck there is some room to invest in the engine.

I have a line on a lo mile used 2006 6.0 engine. I've been told that the later years like 06 were less prone to some of the issues. Would this engine require head studs/gaskets and hpop fixes? I'd be doing an egr delete for sure. And a coolant filter setup which is a new concept to me. What else would need to be done to bolster this engine? Turbos okay in these? I saw my friends ford burn to the ground from a cracked turbo.

Or, should I put a gas engine in? Lol.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 02:03 PM
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What was it someone's project they got in over there head

Puke could be egr cooler

Get some gauges on there before you make any big plans
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 02:14 PM
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It was a kids who bought it from a shady dealer and it melted down soon thereafter. He had a diesel shop diagnose some of the issues but of course then he drove it for another couple months untill it wouldn't run at all lol. I'm treating it as a blown engine although it may still have life left in it. My hope is that I can score a decent engine for around 3k, bolster it up a bit and slap it in.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 02:21 PM
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So it got hot

Or just seamed to have a lot of issues
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 03:22 PM
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He said it never did but who knows. He only drive it for a few of its 330 thousand miles most of which appear to have been a rough life.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 04:57 PM
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well if the oil filter standpipe is whole and not melted its usually salvageable


but if you have a newer engine then maybe that's something
may need wire harnesss changes and programming changes to swap difffrent year motor into it do you reasearch
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Wouldn't the wiring just swap over? If only be using the hard parts of the 2006 engine.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Looks like a Cummins 12v swap is possible for around 5$K also
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Norma stitz
Looks like a Cummins 12v swap is possible for around 5$K also
Then good luck finding a shop that will work on it without charging
you the price of a new truck and then some. Frankintrucks are also
hard to get rid of later down the road. You can never get the money
out of them.

Fix the 6 and your will have a good running truck. At worst a good drop
in engine. The big issue with different years is they moved the ICP sensor.
And a few other things but you can find/make a harness that should fix that.



Sean <BR>

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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Norma stitz
Looks like a Cummins 12v swap is possible for around 5$K also
Another totally uninformed opinion. This site is great but beware who you listen to.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 08:02 PM
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If you want a cummins you should about expect to do all your own work and track down the tunes to run it

Or say you find a shop with a great record doing it you will be stuck going to them for repairs it could be high price repair too cause its a Hybrid and they know they have a cornered the market


my vote is keep it 6.0L follow the forum and get the deals
or sell it get a cummins
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 10:41 PM
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What he said!!!
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 10:47 PM
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I always expect to do all my own work. Now, sometimes I have needed help. So I see your point. However seems like there's enough specialist shops that would muddle through a franken ford or at least point my greasy nose in the right direction.
Plan A is to stay with a ford engine.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2016 | 10:54 PM
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You doing your own work is a major plus. Having minimum skill is really what is needed. In that case would be silly to do anything less then fix that engine properly imo and will be way cheaper
 
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Originally Posted by Norma stitz
Looks like a Cummins 12v swap is possible for around 5$K also
You must like the 2000 usable RPM the 12v puts out. Font forget that they aren't without issues also. Search google for "12v cummins KDP".

I would keep the far superior 6.0L and remedy it's issues.
 
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