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Old Aug 6, 2016 | 10:47 PM
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you wont hurt nothing set to Ohm


some DVM even Beep if you have good circuit
 
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Old Aug 6, 2016 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
Electrical troubleshoot is one of the hardest things for people to grasp think of it like Flowing water flowing from point A to B back to A
I suck at explaining so if your unsure you better off to ask or you will fry Computers/sensors etc.... if hooked up wrong and you send power down a circuit


Do NOT unhook Both ends for ohm test
you will only test Pins 18 and 22 at the Same Connector at pcm driver battery with harness plugged in at the trans were going to flow power thru the Wires and the sensor back to PCM Plug
not from PCM to Trans


Ohm test will send a small amount power thru the circuit and measure return volts from that is will calculate resistence
Got it now, thanks
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 02:06 AM
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 09:54 AM
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Ok, so I just tried to ohm test from the pcm harness 18 to 22 and got nothing, but according to the dIngram, 18 is in unused and doesn't appear to have a wire in the plug. So then I put a lead in the 26 pin which shows to be the tft sensor pin and tried every other pin and still got nothing. I think I'm going to go drain my drain pan at the store and drop the transmission pan and test there. If I know the signal is getting there via my test yesterday of shooting voltage down the harness, but it's not returning, as evidenced in my ohm test this morning, this may be my culprit.

Please let me know if I'm on the right track or just plain dumb at this point. Thanks guys
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
is the sensor Pegging and Erratic again


What digital number does it show
Now that I have the digital scan tool, the dash gauge will slowly climb to normal temp then stop below the gauges. Scanner shows Temps starting at 38f with 90+f ambient air Temps, and going up to around 88f before bottoming out. It will drop from 88 to 18, and then move erratically up and down from there. I have a hard time believing any of these Temps are accurate.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
Internal. Especially if it is showing pegged hot.
Is showing pegged cold, I'll be checking that in a few
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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How exactly do I check the internal wiring harness to see if it's bad?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by usmarine1979
Ok, so I just tried to ohm test from the pcm harness 18 to 22 and got nothing, but according to the dIngram, 18 is in unused and doesn't appear to have a wire in the plug. So then I put a lead in the 26 pin which shows to be the tft sensor pin and tried every other pin and still got nothing. I think I'm going to go drain my drain pan at the store and drop the transmission pan and test there. If I know the signal is getting there via my test yesterday of shooting voltage down the harness, but it's not returning, as evidenced in my ohm test this morning, this may be my culprit.

Please let me know if I'm on the right track or just plain dumb at this point. Thanks guys





The pin numbers the Pinpoint test refers to are at the transmission bulkhead connector down at trans




The Picture of the plug diagram is at the PCM location by battery


pin number changes per location tested cause they used different plug at each end
you were correct to swap 18 for 26 FYI
22 swaps to 30 at the pcm end


need a Diagram of the Transmission bulkhead connector at Trans
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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Electrical troubleshoot is one of the hardest things for people to grasp think of it like Flowing water flowing from point A to B back to A
I suck at explaining so
Blade - dude. I've seen your many posts. Now I *suppose* it's possible that you suck at other things (we all do, lol - don't ask me to perform open heart surgery on you as it could end badly...), but explaining is NOT one of them.

Don't sell yourself short. The support you provide to people on a continuing basis is truly remarkable and one of the many reasons I love FTE.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
The pin numbers the Pinpoint test refers to are at the transmission bulkhead connector down at trans




The Picture of the plug diagram is at the PCM location by battery


pin number changes per location tested cause they used different plug at each end
you were correct to swap 18 for 26 FYI
22 swaps to 30 at the pcm end


need a Diagram of the Transmission bulkhead connector at Trans
Ok, I thought so. When I ran the ohm test between 26 and 30, I get nothing. Will testing it at the transmission end possibly give a different result?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
The pin numbers the Pinpoint test refers to are at the transmission bulkhead connector down at trans




The Picture of the plug diagram is at the PCM location by battery


pin number changes per location tested cause they used different plug at each end
you were correct to swap 18 for 26 FYI
22 swaps to 30 at the pcm end


need a Diagram of the Transmission bulkhead connector at Trans
The diagram on the transmission side shows pin 22 orange/white & violet/light green for the transmission temp sensor
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:34 PM
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Man I feel like a *******. I just found the step by step instructions pdf. Apparently I missed it when I downloaded them all. I've got some testing to do here it seems. Back in a few. Thanks for the continued support guys.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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Plug the harness Back into PCM


Unplug at trans


Test wires going back to PCM
KOEO Measure voltage at Pin 18 and 22
since we don't have that plug diagram on that end you may need to Find the Correct color code of the wire
OG/BK 18
OG/WT 22
or it maybe labeled on the plug


This is to test things back to PCM and also the PCM itself and the Wires leading UPTO the plug at trans
It gives a Direction to go External wire/PCM or Internal wires/Sensor itself


Internal harness Check is after this one if it passes
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
Plug the harness Back into PCM


Unplug at trans


Test wires going back to PCM
KOEO Measure voltage at Pin 18 and 22
since we don't have that plug diagram on that end you may need to Find the Correct color code of the wire
OG/BK 18
OG/WT 22


This is to test things back to PCM and also the PCM itself and the Wires leading UPTO the plug at trans
It gives a Direction to go External wire/PCM or Internal wires/Sensor itself


Internal harness Check is after this one if it passes
This is the one I have. At my transmission side, the orange black wire is at pin 18 and orange white is at 22 like you said. I'm getting 191 milli volts there, not the 4.5 to 5v the instructions suggest I should have
 
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