Oh no problem, I'm giving you guys guff. I was a former greasemonkey in my 20's with regard to my American cars. That's why I'm all about trying to fix things ourselves.

Here's the Vin:1FMSU43FXYEA99974

 

Sorry about that, just assumed I guess based on the usual crowd around here. Just a warning though I could make the mistake again lol. With that said, as far as you know this is the original motor? That's the only other thing I could think of.

 

I ran your vin, hope you dont mind.

The OASIS says, "BRANDED TITLE - ALL WARRANTY CANCELLED EXCEPT EMISSIONS".... not sure what that means. The warranty history database is not available until Thursday, more info then. Build date, Oct. 16, 1999.

Oh, on further googling, branded means salvage, lemon, totaled, flood, reconstructed.... basically means your truck was rebuilt. Im thinking they used a donor pickup for an engine or engine harness. Thats why no GPM. Maybe used the Excursion PCM, therefore, SES.

Edit: Just reread your OP, duh, salvage title. Sorry for being dumb.

 

Maybe you are right Carbon Coupe. I did buy it salvage in 2007. Is there an engine number I could check?

 

There should be a code on the block somewhere, not sure where, that would tell you the build date. Other than that, not really.

 

Thanks, CC, that's exactly the info I was looking for.

Stewart

 

So, what should I do now? Do I need a specialist to look at this?

 

Well, not being an expert on the PCM sharing between a pickup and an EX, I dont want to say get a PCM from a comparable optioned/year pickup.....but thats the path I would look into.

Or, put a piece of electrical tape over the SES light on the cluster and keep tabs on codes on a weekly basis.

 

The vehicle won't pass California smog with the SES activated. It's an automatic fail.

Stewart

 

If you're electronically mechanically inclined, you can pull the valve cover on the drivers side and check the resistance of the 42 pin connector to make sure you have proper continuity/ohms (I suck at anything electrical so I'm not sure if I'm using the correct nomenclature).

Another option to see if it is the PCM is to swap your PCM with one from a 7.3L powered F250 of the same MY (Model Year) to see if it solves your problem.

Stewart

PS - Gonna move this over to the 7.3L forum to get the PSD guys to help you out.

 

Thanks! Sounds like a plan.

 

Well, I don't know if Stewart_H moved my post but nobody has responded so I'll ask: does anyone know what to do with an Excursion that looks like it has a Ford F250 engine that has a SES code indicating P1396? I need to get my Ex smogged in California and they can't smog it with the SES on. It has had new glow plugs and a new Glow Plug Relay in the recent past (2013) but I still see the Glow Plug Module fault. I don't know if the person who switched out the engine also switched out the PCM but maybe that's what's wrong? I need help or California will throw me out. (Not a bad idea actually!)

 

The P1396 DTC indicates Glow Plug Monitor Fault, Bank 2. That isn't a glow plug module fault; the vehicle doesn't have one, and the PCM isn't looking for one. There are Ford wiring diagrams that indicate some 1999-2001 Excursions did have a relay rather than a module. The P1396 means that bank 2 is drawing less than 32 amps when the glow plugs are energized, or is drawing at least 8.5 amps less than bank 1. You have either a bad glow plug (or more) on bank 2, or a bad valve cover gasket/harness/connector, or possibly a bad shunt or broken monitoring wire. The shunt is the metal strap on the large post, visible in your picture.

 

I don't think there is an easy "legal" solution, that is also cheap. Someone created a mess when they put the wrong setup in there when they fixed it. As long as you are stuck in Commie-Fornia, you're going to have problems with this vehicle.
1.) Convert it fully back to the correct CA configuration. Requires at least a GPCM, which you already have, but probably also a new engine harness. These are getting very difficult to find, and expensive.

2.) Find and buy a '00 49-state truck PCM. ( Probably somewhere between $200-$400 Plug it in and see what happens. It may very well fix the SES light/code issue. However, don't you also have a visual inspection to pass as well? IF the tech is on his game, he/she will definitely spot that lack of a GPCM. Do they have "cheat sheets" for the inspectors, telling/showing them what should be there?

You also have the issue of the emission stickers under the hood/on the right side valve cover. They probably don't match up. You could try and acquire the correct stickers for a 49-state truck, apply them to the appropriate places, remove your cat, and try to pass it off as though you Excursion came that way from the factory. This would be a lot easier to pull off with a truck, since they did actually come that way from the factory. But, no Excursion 7.3L would have been configured that way. So, again, if the inspector knows 7.3L diesels well, and/or has a state issued "cheat sheet", you're screwed.

3.) Find a private inspection station/referee that is open to taking a bribe to look the other way. This could be risky and/or expensive. But, if you find one that you can trust, you've solved this, and any other CA inspection issues you may have.

4.) I looked on the map, and I see you're not exactly a short drive from neighboring states, but it may be worth the trip, to register the truck in another state. It looks like either Las Vegas or Phoenix are both fairly straight highway shots, along with any number smaller "border" towns in either state. Do your homework,and figure out whether Nevada or Arizona has more favorable vehicle registration and inspection laws, for you. Granted there may another cost, in establishing some sort of address in either location. Again, do your research. It may be as simple as getting a p.o. box.

5.) Sell this Excursion and buy a CA compliant ( don't you just hate that word?) vehicle.

6.) Move out of the People's Communist Republic of Scummie-Fornia

 

But I thought only models equipped with a GPCM will have a shunt and/or monitoring wire?