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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:02 AM
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Hello again all i did a code search on my truck and this what it said: first of course my truck is a 88 with a 5.0 here are the codes: koeo 84,33 next is koer: 24,43,44 now i can tell you that my smog pump is gone except for, the tubes that are on the back of the heads no vacuum lines to the TAD and TAB solenoids but are still plugged in. And i replaced the vacuum lines with silicone rubber ones? I dont have any idea on how to fix any of these codes at all also i did replace the egr vacuum solenoid and that didnt help for the egr codes. Im very frustrated!! At it im running out of ideas? And of course i dont have alot of the tools like, a vacuum pump and such. Any advice you can give would be helpful. My egr valve used to open when it was in the driveway and you would give it gas at the, TB but now it doesn't thanks again guys, I thought i had this fixed but I guess not!!!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:45 AM
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If your smog system was not deleted properly (open vents/check valves to the exhaust), that could definitely mess with your oxygen sensor. Otherwise I'd expect your O2 sensor has finally died and should be replaced.

As far as EGR goes, you should start diagnostics by applying vacuum directly to the valve and seeing if it opens (engine should start running significantly worse with the valve open at idle).
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 01:11 AM
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If your smog system was not deleted properly (open vents/check valves to the exhaust), that could definitely mess with your oxygen sensor. Otherwise I'd expect your O2 sensor has finally died and should be replaced.

As far as EGR goes, you should start diagnostics by applying vacuum directly to the valve and seeing if it opens (engine should start running significantly worse with the valve open at idle).
Yes sir i agree and no it has not been deleted properly the cross over tube in the back of the heads are still there and i know this is stupid but the rubber hose that is on the passenger side that goes to the that metal valve
Back there that was part, of the smog pump system has a plastic bag shoved in there! Dumb I know! And that pipe in the exhaust thats hooked to, the other hose needs to be welded shut! Im trying to get that taken care of asap! Maybe thats what fried the o2 sensor? If thats what it is! Also i dont know what to do about the ACT sensor? Got a code for that also!! Thanks leadhead!!!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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Ok here is what i did this morning. Started the truck, put a small pc of vac tube to EGR sucked on the hose and the truck stalled, did it several times. Stalled every time also i grounded the green wire to battery short periods, it stalled every time like it was supposed to so obviously the egr is working manually at least so i cant figure out why its not opening, when i drive it? Thats why i guess im getting code 33 and 84 my next question is how do i check the red wire on the EVR solenoid for voltage and make sure it's not grounding etc. thanks again guys!!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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The red wire goes to a lot of places. If the red wire is grounded the truck will not start.
The source of the red wire is the ECC power relay with a brown bottom.

That said I do not know what type of code you got as you said nothing about CM codes. So I do not know if codes you posted are KOEO or CM codes.
If they are CM codes then they will be in memory until they are cleared or you have 60 start ups.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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The red wire goes to a lot of places. If the red wire is grounded the truck will not start.
The source of the red wire is the ECC power relay with a brown bottom.

That said I do not know what type of code you got as you said nothing about CM codes. So I do not know if codes you posted are KOEO or CM codes.
If they are CM codes then they will be in memory until they are cleared or you have 60 start ups.
code 33 and 84 i got in both KOEO AND KOER i do believe the red wire on the EVR did have 11.9v with the key on which i think its supposed to? Yeah it goes alot of places then ends up at the eec relay i do believe im so frustrated at this man!! Every time i think im getting somewhere something else goes wrong! But thats just life i guess Murphy's law! I reckon lol thanks for your help oh and I guess im not understanding between CM and KOER codes when i read them
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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Scrobbie, I know you have encountered problem after problem. Have you pulled the PCM to inspect for leaking capacitors?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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Well not recently but remember man i had them replaced like a year or 2 ago. I just wished i could figure this crap out, it seems to run well when driving down the road! It just idles rough i just hope on top of all this i hope my lower intake gasket isn't leaking causing the lean condition im getting on the left side! But that could be because my air injection system is not removed correctly either i just dont know as much about efi systems as carb systems!! Thanks again for all your guys help maybe sooner or later ill get it solved! I hope cheers all
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 09:52 AM
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Ok, I remember now you did. Sorry, it's hard keeping track of everything.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 09:58 AM
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Ok, I remember now you did. Sorry, it's hard keeping track of everything.
No need to be sorry man im sure all of you have better things to do besides help the same guy with the same problems all the time lol thanks again!!
 
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I would address the poorly removed smog components and the non-switching O2 sensor before tracing down the EGR problem. Those are bigger issues, IMO.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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I would address the poorly removed smog components and the non-switching O2 sensor before tracing down the EGR problem. Those are bigger issues, IMO.
I would agree but i dont know what to do with the non switching o2 sensor i mean the smog pump delete i should b able to fix that one at least
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 10:47 AM
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I just ran a KOEO Now I got a code 48 and 33 i don't get this at all this is driving me nuts!!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 11:05 AM
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Well if you were unplugging vacuum lines, that could have lead to code 48.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Well if you were unplugging vacuum lines, that could have lead to code 48.
ok that makes sense thanks man! Your right i did unplug vacuum lines to check the egr valve. Thanks again!
 
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