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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 04:03 AM
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I appreciate the information and will heed any warnings. I'm green to diesels but if this deal is solid I can't pass on it. The trailer will be the first to go and the F150 may have a spot for a short time but that is destined for sale as well. I don't have space for 2 trucks. The bronco may not be back on the road for a while so I will do what I have to, to keep the diesel running well. 5,000 miles per oil change isn't bad, I won't hit that mark for a while so $150 should be manageable. My jaw did swing open when I saw the 15 quart spec for the 6.0. That baffles me. But, that explains the $150 oil change.

I plan to research this STC thing so I can get a better understanding. Maybe I'll get a moped to drive, I can store that anywhere

Nothing is set in stone yet, and worst case when I get it home if it turns out to be a real big hassle, I can always sell it and use the earnings for a large down payment on a new truck. But I can also say I've owned a diesel. While owning it, it will give me the opportunity to learn how it works compared to a gas motor, and how to fix it. I don't really want another vehicle I have to work on but I feel like that will happen with anything under 2010.

If I go over to buy it, I'll surley have my ELM unit with me so I can monitor the drive home and see if any codes have popped up.

The truck is also setup to tow the trailer with brake assist and whatnot. That alone will be a heck of a learning experience. I towed a dump trailer once. A 5th wheel is a new animal. I'll probably get a crash course in stuff to know by the current owners. I'm sure I'll have one of my parents riding with me as well so they can assist me. They have only towed standard hitch trailers though so they might not be quite as helpful.

I'm pretty excited. Even if the truck isn't worth keeping in the end, it will be a fun experience.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 01:23 PM
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Where in ID will it be coming from?
If you coming back on I-90 the worst place I can think of is the hill
at Vantage in WA
If you going down south then I-82 and I-84 have some spots. Most long hills
and some wind depending on the season. I-84 at Cabbage Hill - Deadman Pass
can be a bit of a PITA. The good thing is your going to be coming down and
not going up. You will find that the Tow/Haul button is your best friend. That will
help keep the sped under control and also keep you off the brakes. Then on the
trailer brakes if it's the Ford factory unit that will also take into account the ABS
action of the main brakes and help keep you from locking up the trailer.

If and when this happens one of will take you out for a little pre trip drive so you
can get an idea on what to look for and how the truck handles. The big thing to keep
in mind is speed equals heat and if you are heating just slow down and go slower it
will cool down. We can get into more of that later if you go.

I-84 at Cabbage Hill - Deadman Pass. Yes I have driving that in the winter with freezing
fog on the road. We did not like that one bit. BTW the name Cabbage Hill comes from the
fact that before they reworked the road and put a freeway in the road tracked the hills
that were sort of rolling like the bumps on a cabbage and it took 2X as long do to all the
up and downs the road took. Truckers hated it.



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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Where in ID will it be coming from?
If you coming back on I-90 the worst place I can think of is the hill
at Vantage in WA
If you going down south then I-82 and I-84 have some spots. Most long hills
and some wind depending on the season. I-84 at Cabbage Hill - Deadman Pass
can be a bit of a PITA. The good thing is your going to be coming down and
not going up. You will find that the Tow/Haul button is your best friend. That will
help keep the sped under control and also keep you off the brakes. Then on the
trailer brakes if it's the Ford factory unit that will also take into account the ABS
action of the main brakes and help keep you from locking up the trailer.

If and when this happens one of will take you out for a little pre trip drive so you
can get an idea on what to look for and how the truck handles. The big thing to keep
in mind is speed equals heat and if you are heating just slow down and go slower it
will cool down. We can get into more of that later if you go.

I-84 at Cabbage Hill - Deadman Pass. Yes I have driving that in the winter with freezing
fog on the road. We did not like that one bit. BTW the name Cabbage Hill comes from the
fact that before they reworked the road and put a freeway in the road tracked the hills
that were sort of rolling like the bumps on a cabbage and it took 2X as long do to all the
up and downs the road took. Truckers hated it.



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Much appreciated. It will be around the Salmon area and probably not till April due to the family having a medical setback. We haven't heard word from them in a few days. Last update was dropping it off at a Ford shop for the black smoke thing. My step dad has been awaiting any news from them. As far as traveling back, I'd be interested in the shortest route for time sake, I estimate I'll have to call out from work for at least one night. However, I also would like a safe and easy going trip so if I have to sacrifice time for safety I will.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 06:59 PM
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Another thing to remember towing a 5er is to swing wide on the
corners, like a semi. They don't follow like a bumper pull.

If the trailer hasn't moved in a while take a good look at the
tires. Tread may look good but anything over 6 -7 years could
be suffering from dryrot.

5ers tow easy and one as small as that one will be a snap
for that truck.

Good luck and safe travels.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by klbrown
Another thing to remember towing a 5er is to swing wide on the
corners, like a semi. They don't follow like a bumper pull.

If the trailer hasn't moved in a while take a good look at the
tires. Tread may look good but anything over 6 -7 years could
be suffering from dryrot.

5ers tow easy and one as small as that one will be a snap
for that truck.

Good luck and safe travels.
Thanks! I don't really know much about the trailer itself, but I'll give the tires a look before leaving and see if there is a way to test the brakes before going too far.

I've been told that area is a lot of flat country roads so I suppose I'll have space to figure things out before hitting the highway.

A few weeks ago I made a really small bird feeding trough from scraps of wood and stiff wire. It was too small so I made this.



It took me over 2 weeks to do, I got a good start but having our dog pass away, then having a co worker pass away sort of put things on hold. I finally finished the aluminum straps that hold it to the railing and got it mounted. My mom likes it way more. I drilled some small holes in the front for water drainage, and covered it with a wood protection spray to try keeping it from rotting. The old one was just a small bod I made with no measurements or anything, this one I tried to channel my inner highschool wood working class. I still suck at straight cuts and measuring! But it's all screwed together and ready for birds.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GruesomeJeans
Thanks! I don't really know much about the trailer itself, but I'll give the tires a look before leaving and see if there is a way to test the brakes before going too far.

I've been told that area is a lot of flat country roads so I suppose I'll have space to figure things out before hitting the highway.

A few weeks ago I made a really small bird feeding trough from scraps of wood and stiff wire. It was too small so I made this.



It took me over 2 weeks to do, I got a good start but having our dog pass away, then having a co worker pass away sort of put things on hold. I finally finished the aluminum straps that hold it to the railing and got it mounted. My mom likes it way more. I drilled some small holes in the front for water drainage, and covered it with a wood protection spray to try keeping it from rotting. The old one was just a small bod I made with no measurements or anything, this one I tried to channel my inner highschool wood working class. I still suck at straight cuts and measuring! But it's all screwed together and ready for birds.
Nice bird feeder! My grandma would love that, I might n Ed to make her one haha. Good luck with the new truck I hope it all works out.

Here's what I made last weekend:
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 11:34 PM
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@Dylan Will you be removing it? Why the aluminum straps instead of screwing into the deck railing.

Looks neat though.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 04:31 AM
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Thanks Drew, it's a crude build and wasn't sanded well. I wasn't ever very good at sanding, that hadn't changed.

Taurean, my parents didn't want holes in the deck from screws when/if we removed it. The aluminum straps make it easy to remove it if we decide to place it elsewhere.

Has anyone ever used these Fumoto Drain valves for the 6.0? I was reading up on the oil change process to see where all the expenses came from. Some folks were mentioning these valves were very useful for draining 14-15 quarts of oil. At my work we have boxes of Rotella 15/40w diesel oil. 6 1 gallon jugs in a box. If they are 5 quarts a piece then I get about 2 oil changes out of the box for $75~. I'm not sure how much the filter costs and if there are supposed to be other expenses.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GruesomeJeans
Much appreciated. It will be around the Salmon area and probably not till April due to the family having a medical setback. We haven't heard word from them in a few days. Last update was dropping it off at a Ford shop for the black smoke thing. My step dad has been awaiting any news from them. As far as traveling back, I'd be interested in the shortest route for time sake, I estimate I'll have to call out from work for at least one night. However, I also would like a safe and easy going trip so if I have to sacrifice time for safety I will.
One thing I can say I don't think your going to want to head up US-93 to I-90
from Salmon. That pass in a Ranger was enough of a bitch lots of turns and some
very narrow gaps in a few places.

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It over 7,000 feet in elevation. You will still have snow as late as May. Going back down
to I-82 from Salmon adds about 100 miles but would rid you of that high pass with all
the turns and rocks on the road. Plus I bet that not having to climb to 7,008. Crystal Mt
is 6998 at the top. Deadman Pass has an elevation of 3,631. So that would more than save
the fuel with the lower climb

It does not show it in this Youtube but the downhill run on Deadman pass had runaway truck
pull off every so often on the decent and cool down stations on the climb that you should not need.





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Just some For Fun OR to ID I-84
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 11:13 AM
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I have not used Fumoto valves. They do make them for most engines though. If you add a "N" to the part number it should come with a nipple. Best bet on the filters is to buy online. Several places have them a bit less expensive then over the counter.

I can dig the no holes too.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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So you don't recommend taking I-90 back? It seems Deadman pass is pretty far out of the way. If I remember right, I-90 isn't a bad drive from when I went to Elk. I was checking with the Google maps GPS to see what routes it recommended.

As for the truck, we have heard they they won't be back till the end of April. They have a few other trucks they use for work so they don't need this. And they just got a new trailer so this one can go. We are going to try to take the price down a little more.

As for the valve, it was an idea if I plan to do these oil changes at home. That's a lot of oil to drain and fill. For the filter, I read through a thread about the process (source of the valve) and they were saying to stick with Mogorcraft or Rancor(?) Filters. They are the best recommended ones. Oil brand and weight was just a big can of worms as usual.

Since I've got time to wait, I'll do some research on these "bulletproofing" process. The blue spring and whatever else is involved.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 03:56 PM
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If you taking main road US-93 from Salmon to I-90 would not be a road
I would want to take for my first trip with a new truck and trailer. Also
taking the long way round would save a lot of fuel do to the fact that it's over
3,000 feet elevation that you won't have to go up.



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Motorcraft and Racor are the OEM filters. I believe Motorcrafts are rebranded Racor filters. I would suggest a 5 gallon bucket and some ramps for the oil change.

Blue spring is to maintain fuel pressure for the injectors at a higher level. Factory upgrade.

Do you have a scangauge? maybe something to purchase prior to picking up the truck. You could practice with your F150 prior as well.
 
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Originally Posted by Bently_Coop
Motorcraft and Racor are the OEM filters. I believe Motorcrafts are rebranded Racor filters. I would suggest a 5 gallon bucket and some ramps for the oil change.

Blue spring is to maintain fuel pressure for the injectors at a higher level. Factory upgrade.

Do you have a scangauge? maybe something to purchase prior to picking up the truck. You could practice with your F150 prior as well.
I've got an ELM unit. It plugs into the OBDII port and connects to my phone via Bluetooth. It shows me codes and live reasons of various components. RPM, boost, fuel pressure, and so on. I'm not sure if a Scan gauge is the same.


I'll re-evaluate the route and see what's up with it. I've got some time to plan

I totally forgot about Johns question about the meet, I'll jump in there at my lunch and post.
 
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