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The dealer "Timed" the engine many years ago and said it would help on towing. What it did was made it a lot noisier than it was new. It may have given me more but it was at a cost. The heads were machined at .004 off just to make them flat. Ford says you can take .008 off but no more than that. the engine runs smoother now and not so damn noisy.I'm a lot happier now.
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If you want, type in Ford 6.0 class action law suits on GOOGLE and see what I saw. Seems someone that had a 2005 got it bought back because of the 6.0 crap. Oh by the way, mine is 10 years old and 104556 on the motor. Diesels should last at least 300000 befor having to get into them.
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Thats kind of funny. This dealer that was called says they have a bullitin on that very thing. How else you going to get them flat? Buy new? Have you checked the price of those things?
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New ones are not flat either. Super duty service has a video of machining a set of new heads, it took .003 to get the brand new oem heads flat.
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I agree though about it being OK to mill the heads some (and also agree that even the new ones aren't flat), but it has not been Ford's position to endorse milling heads.
This may be the video (past the link in your video software's "Play URL" command line) - about 4 and a half minutes in:
mms://multimedia.ford.com/seopts/wsm/cylinderheadflatness.wmv
https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsbs/ful...tsbno=06-21-10
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Here's my vid
I've never heard of retiming this engine. Unless it was a tooth off or two. The only real way is to remove the engine,, flip over, remove the bed plate, and lift the crankshaft with a hoist just enough to spin the cam. If the engine wasn't removed,, then the truck was "tuned",, not "timed". I know,, we are splitting hairs here. Lol. Maybe my video caused Ford to change their position??? Lol
I've never heard of retiming this engine. Unless it was a tooth off or two. The only real way is to remove the engine,, flip over, remove the bed plate, and lift the crankshaft with a hoist just enough to spin the cam. If the engine wasn't removed,, then the truck was "tuned",, not "timed". I know,, we are splitting hairs here. Lol. Maybe my video caused Ford to change their position??? Lol
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Here's my vid
Ford reman head out of the box surface. - YouTube
I've never heard of retiming this engine. Unless it was a tooth off or two. The only real way is to remove the engine,, flip over, remove the bed plate, and lift the crankshaft with a hoist just enough to spin the cam. If the engine wasn't removed,, then the truck was "tuned",, not "timed". I know,, we are splitting hairs here. Lol. Maybe my video caused Ford to change their position??? Lol
Ford reman head out of the box surface. - YouTube
I've never heard of retiming this engine. Unless it was a tooth off or two. The only real way is to remove the engine,, flip over, remove the bed plate, and lift the crankshaft with a hoist just enough to spin the cam. If the engine wasn't removed,, then the truck was "tuned",, not "timed". I know,, we are splitting hairs here. Lol. Maybe my video caused Ford to change their position??? Lol
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Is the Surge like high low throttle then stalls out? keep your foot on the brake when it high throttle jump? , or little by little power going out it just dies? and always seem to hot start right back up ? or have to wait when hot for a little bit ?
the first one for me was the ICP and Pig tail.
the first one for me was the ICP and Pig tail.
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