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Old 11-06-2014, 01:31 AM
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My Ford 300 Engine Build

When I first bought the truck, I immediately had the V8 swap mentality... and then I got to really like driving the truck... and then I got to really like pushing the engine to its limits... and then I wanted more. Eventually, the engine needed to come out for a re-seal at minimum, but that's not how I am. I am really good at overdoing things, and that's what I'm doing with this. Here's my progress so far. I will update as I go. At some point soon it will be at the machine shop to get worked on.

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The head weighed 75lb, and it was stuck on there really good. With it unbolted and the hoist lifting more than the weight of the head, it still took a fair bit of prying to get it off.

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I labelled all the pushrods for reinstallation later, but I've now realized that I wasted my time as not only will I be needing different lengths, but I'm also switching out to 3/8" pushrods.

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My block had the C6AE casting, which I'd never noticed before. So, concerned, I had to settle my worries and confirm that I had a 300. I did. I was happy.

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I searched long and hard to find myself a 240 head. I don't live anywhere near a wrecking yard with anything pre-EFI era so it was actually a really big deal for me to find one. I put it through an electrolysis bath and it came out great. It's bleached look here is from the WD40 that was sprayed on it to get the water out.

However, when I pulled my head off the engine, I discovered that it actually already had a 240 head. It was a bittersweet moment. I was always looking forward to slapping on a 240 head to see what difference it would make. Turns out I already knew.

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I bought these oversized valves from SI Valves as per a recommendation by a user on this forum. They're well made as far I can tell.

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Here they are compared to an OEM valve out of my junkyard head. Quite a big difference. I probably should've gone up to a 2.02" valve as it has better flow up to 0.400" valve lift over the 1.94", but that's just me nitpicking. I'll survive.

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In my recent post, I explained that SI actually discontinued their oversized valves for the 300, so I was forced to buy small block Chevy 1.60" exhaust valves. They're the same other than the 4.911" length. The Ford length is 4.810". I'll make them work.

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Just goes to show how thousandths matter.

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Perspective aside, you can see they're a bit taller.

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They look sexy as hell together though!

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Anyway, onto the bottom end. I got 240 rods for the engine, as this not only allows for a better rod length to stroke ratio or rod angle, which means less piston side loading and therefore less wear on the pistons and the cylinders, but their added length (6.795") compared to a 300 rod (6.210") allows the use of a smaller, lighter piston, (the pistons I ordered only weigh 386g each) which means easier high-RPM. The only downside to this is theoretical, in that with the longer rod it will take longer and also not last as long for the explosive forces of the compression stroke to have maximum leverage on the crankshaft, and since torque is measured by (force) x (distance), I will theoretically not have as much torque as I could've with the shorter 300 rods. What I mean by this is that with a short rod, it doesn't take as much downward piston travel for the rod to kick out at 90 degrees to the crank and apply leverage. Because it doesn't take as long for it to do this, the action starts earlier and therefore lasts longer. That being said, this engine is getting built up for power. I'm not going to notice this effect.

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Here's a diagram I drew up of it. Should you go this route, you'll need small block Ford pistons meant for a 331/347 stroker as those have the smaller ~1.170" compression height. If you go with the early C5AE casting 240 rods like I did, the ones without the piston oil hole, you'll need pistons with a wrist pin diameter of 0.912". The C5AE rods are stronger. The C8AE oil-hole rods are prone to failure at the oil hole in high horsepower/high stress applications.

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And this is what I'm left with.

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I have much more for in stock for this engine. Stay tuned to find out. I will make every attempt I can at teaching as I go and also answering any questions you guys may have.
 
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This is a real nice thread with great pics Great job ! Thanks
 
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What redroad said X2!
Thanks, boys. Wouldn't have been able to do it without the collective intelligence of people such as yourselves. I should have my pistons in sometime soon. They're special order so I have to wait for the store to get them in. They're nice and fancy forged aluminum. The pistons and the SBC valves were actually the first things I'd bought locally for my truck. It's usually significantly cheaper for me to order out of the States and import it.
 
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Your building the engine I always wanted! Kicka**

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Found something a bit interesting today. My cam gear is metal, not nylon like I expected it to be. It does say FoMoCo on it and I seriously doubt this engine has ever had someone messing around with its internals. This is indicative to a heavy duty 300. Wouldn't that be a nice surprise to have the forged crank!

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Pulled the camshaft out. For those who don't know, the procedure to remove the camshaft out of a Ford 300 is to pop off the timing cover, rotate the engine until the timing marks line up, remove the fuel pump, turn the engine upside down, remove the two 1/2" camshaft thrust plate bolts which will be behind two of the four holes in the camshaft gear, and then pull the cam out. It shouldn't be stuck in there. Just be careful to not smash the lobes into anything upon removal. Slow and steady.

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I had the engine upside down, pulled the rod caps off, and then tapped on the studs with the wooden handle of a hammer and had my hand underneath to catch the piston and guide it out. It's always a good habit to lay everything out exactly how it was in the block.

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And then the crank. I knew it would be heavy so for extra assurance I had my dad help me take it out to limit the chances of damaging anything. I put it on the bathroom scale. 70 pounds! Another surprise was the main cap bolts. They came out with a sucking noise as if there was a seal, and sure enough there was. Almost 50 years old and the bolts still have assembly lube on them. Amazing.

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And now I'm left with a block. I hope to have my friend come over and help me take it off the stand so I can take it to the machine shop to have it hot tanked.

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Very cool pics! Thanks for this.
 
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Just took the block to a machine shop to get hot tanked. I wanted to get a vibe for what the place was like before I started trusting him with everything else. I should get it back Tuesday. So far I think the shop is an okay place.
 
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Subscribed. I'd love to see the power you can get out a 300.
 
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subscribed! Keep the pics and tips coming. working up my nerve to try my first engine rebuild so i really appreciate the details and info you are posting.
 
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