finally! official thread!
Aug 12, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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I'm having a motor built, and I'm pulling my motor(dead first cylinder)
I think your confused on that my friend. My bad.
LOL you confused me thoroughly.
On the other hand, I would 100% want to see the motor I was buying, you know, before I bought it, or had the machinst.. machine it..
Aug 12, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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I bought a built motor that the guy never paid for, and am having my guy take it apart and check/fix it. And I'm dropping it and a zf5 in place of my bad motor and t18.
I'm sorry bud. I got so used to everyone knowing what I was doing I guess I forgot to add all the details to the original post!
Aug 12, 2014 | 08:30 PM
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I not only want to see it, but I disassemble the engine, mike the parts, and then take them to the machine shop. Once I get the parts back, and I hope to in the next week, I mike them again to ensure I got what I asked for. Nothing left to chance.
Aug 12, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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dylansf23
I bought a built motor that the guy never paid for, and am having my guy take it apart and check/fix it. And I'm dropping it and a zf5 in place of my bad motor and t18.
So you bought a newly built - never run- engine, and it needs to be milled and sleeved???
I don't even..
Aug 12, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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ArdWrknTrk
So you bought a newly built - never run- engine, and it needs to be milled and sleeved???
I don't even..
You can't stop there. Remember, you are point for several of us. Say what we are thinking.
Aug 12, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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... I don't even know what to say about that.
Maybe the PO who refused to pay for it had X-ray vision?
Aug 12, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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ArdWrknTrk
... I don't even know what to say about that.
Maybe the PO who refused to pay for it had X-ray vision?
or a compression tester/ leak down tester?
Aug 12, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Really hard to say if it's never been run.
Rings aren't seated, there's no way to crank it for a compression test.
Watch out for the breaker bar when you pressurize a cylinder for leakdown.
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Aug 12, 2014 | 09:41 PM
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Really hard to say if it's never been run.
Rings aren't seated, there's no way to crank it for a compression test.
Watch out for the breaker bar when you pressurize a cylinder for leakdown.
I've always wondered if it was possible to do a leak down test with pushrods removed?
Aug 12, 2014 | 09:49 PM
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I've always wondered if it was possible to do a leak down test with pushrods removed?
Easy. Just bring the pistons to TDC and don't worry about which stroke it is on.
Aug 12, 2014 | 09:54 PM
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But how do you keep the crank from turning if it's sitting on the floor.
Yes, I know there is no rotational force at exactly TDC.
It would still worry me.
Aug 12, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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I've had no problem at all with the piston on or close to TDC. It will creep a bit if not on TDC, but not much. And that's on a worn-in engine. I would think the rotational drag on a new engine would be significantly more, preventing creep.
Aug 12, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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Well, I guess it's only 100 psi. :-eeek
Aug 12, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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But, with a 4" bore you are still looking at 1256 pounds of force. So you do want that crank to be straight up - or down if the push rods are out.
Aug 12, 2014 | 10:18 PM
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No point in doing a leakdown at the bottom of the stroke.
That's not where the bore really has to seal.
I say we all congratulate Dylan on his progress and let him have his thread back.