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Old May 2, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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AOD VS AODE

HELLO TO ALL, IM NEW HERE , IT FEELS LIKE HOME ALL FORD ALL DAY, OK I HAVE A 1993 F150 4X STEP SIDE OR FLARE SIDE IF U MUST , CAME STOCK WITH A 5.0/ AOD THE 5.0 PAST ON , I PUT IN A 5.8 OUT OF A 94 F250 4X WITH SAME STOCK AOD, OK THEN THE AOD PAST ON ,MONEY TIGHT, I WAS GIVEN AN AOD OUT OF A 87 BRONCO SHES UP AND RUNNING , I KNOW THE 87 IS ONE YEAR TO OLD ,BUT IT WORKS A LITTLE FUNKY BUT IT WORKS ,OK LONG STORY SHORT JUST GOT A AODE 94 COULD NOT PASS ON PRICE , IS THERE A CONVERSION FROM AODTO AODE ANY IDEAS AND ANY IMPUT I WOULD B VERY GREATFULL. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME BIGWOOD
 
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Old May 2, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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HELLO TO ALL, IM NEW HERE , IT FEELS LIKE HOME ALL FORD ALL DAY, OK I HAVE A 1993 F150 4X STEP SIDE OR FLARE SIDE IF U MUST
We must. Being "all Ford all day" we don't like it when people insult Fords by calling them Ch*vy names

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, CAME STOCK WITH A 5.0/ AOD THE 5.0 PAST ON , I PUT IN A 5.8 OUT OF A 94 F250 4X WITH SAME STOCK AOD, OK THEN THE AOD PAST ON ,MONEY TIGHT, I WAS GIVEN AN AOD OUT OF A 87 BRONCO SHES UP AND RUNNING , I KNOW THE 87 IS ONE YEAR TO OLD ,BUT IT WORKS A LITTLE FUNKY BUT IT WORKS ,OK LONG STORY SHORT JUST GOT A AODE 94 COULD NOT PASS ON PRICE , IS THERE A CONVERSION FROM AODTO AODE ANY IDEAS AND ANY IMPUT I WOULD B VERY GREATFULL. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME BIGWOOD
I don't know about any kit, but I think you're talking about an E4OD trans. I've never heard of an AODE, but the E4OD is a four speed automatic with overdrive that was commonly used in the '90s. It's a completely electronically controlled transmission as oppsed to the AOD that is pretty much stand-alone. I guess there are aftermarket controllers available for the E4OD, but I don't think they are cheap. Going full factory might be a better option. That would likely be easiest if you had the truck the E4OD came out of, because it would give you all of the sensors, computer, wiring harness etc.

Long story short, I think it'd be a BIG job to put an E4OD in place of an AOD.
 
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Old May 2, 2014 | 12:00 PM
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I guess there are aftermarket controllers available for the E4OD, but I don't think they are cheap.

Correct, there are and they aren't that cheap.

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Considering the cost and gains of a aftermarket controller, your best bet is to get the proper Ford wiring harness and do the work yourself. This is a big job as well but should be cheaper for you. If you would like an aftermarket controller, they aren't too hard to install. They will tap into the TPS, VSS, and I think another feed from the PCM. Then you would need to do some wiring on the E4OD for the signals to get to that from the aftermarket controller.
 
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Old May 2, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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AODE

The AOD was redesigned with electronic controls in 1992, becoming the AODE.
It was mainly intended for the new Modular V8 at first, but it was also adapted to the old AOD bell-housing for vehicles still powered by OHV engines. While the AOD, AODE and early 4R70W share some basic components like oil pans, gear sets (AODs and AODE can be retrofit with 4R70W gear sets), most of the internals are not interchangeable because the 4R70W and AODE use electronic solenoids to shift instead of conventional hydraulics. The transmissions are not interchangeable either, as the AOD only uses a throttle valve cable for operation. The AODE and 4R70W's shift points are controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) also sometimes referred to as the Electronic Engine Control (EEC).

Applications:

1992–1994 Lincoln Town Car
1992 and up Ford F-Series trucks and E-Series vans
1993–1994 Ford Crown Victoria
1993–1994 Mercury Grand Marquis
1994–1995 Ford Mustang
 
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Old May 2, 2014 | 04:33 PM
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So AODE is Wikipedia-ese for the transmission that Ford calls E4OD? Of course if Ford switched to the E4OD before they ran out of the name "AOD" I wouldn't put it past Ford them to do a mid-year name change, calling the early E4ODs "AODE" until they got to the "E4OD" name, just to confuse us like they did on numerous parts
 
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Old May 2, 2014 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGWOOD
,OK LONG STORY SHORT JUST GOT A AODE 94 COULD NOT PASS ON PRICE ,
Ok.. more corrections coming here. If you actually got an AODE it's not from a truck because that trans was never installed in a truck(Wikipedia is wrong). If it is a truck transmission what you likely have is the 4R70w which is 100% computer controlled just like the E4OD and swapping it into your truck would be a BIG job, you would have to change the complete engine bay wiring harness and swap in a 5.0/4R70w PCM. There are no 5.8/4R70w PCMs since that combo was never offered from the factory.
 
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Old May 2, 2014 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Special
So AODE is Wikipedia-ese for the transmission that Ford calls E4OD?
No. The AODE is a real Ford transmission that existed briefly in the early '90s and it shares nothing in common with the E4OD. Many places also mistakenly interchange the names AODE and 4R70w as being the same trans but that's not right either. The real AODE was an all mechanical AOD with an electrically locking torque converter and it was only installed in cars, so even if you find a 5.0 version you don't want it in a truck, and there is no 4wd version of the AODE.
 
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Old May 2, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGWOOD
, I WAS GIVEN AN AOD OUT OF A 87 BRONCO SHES UP AND RUNNING , I KNOW THE 87 IS ONE YEAR TO OLD ,BUT IT WORKS A LITTLE FUNKY BUT IT WORKS
You have a 93 truck, with a 94 engine... Tell me how an 87 trans is 1 year too old...
Sorry, had to ask. And please try not to type in all capps.

Cool you got a cheap aod. The reason why it "works a little funky" is because it's not adjusted correctly. The "kickdown" is a major piece in how the trans works. It's not just a kickdown, but a pressure modulator. It needs to be adjusted correctly for the trans to operate correctly.
Explain what it's doing and I'll help you adjust it right and then we will continue with the trans swap idea later.
 
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Are 4x4 AOD tail housing interchangeable with 4R70W?

My boss, the rebuilder, isn't here at the moment to ask this question, and it's driving me nuts... I got a request for a 4x4 AOD rebuild- no core. I know we have cases here, and all the internals... but not 4x4 cases... we rebuild a ton of 4R70W's and have shelves full of parts... can you use a 4R70W 4x4 tail housing and shaft on/in an AOD build? @Mark Kovalsky (figured I'd tag you Mark since you're familiar with me)

 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 08:16 AM
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Sorry, I never worked with the AOD/AODE/4R70W family so I am not familiar enough to know the answer to that.
 
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Thanks anywho Mark... appreciate you getting back to me, so quickly. patience is not my thing... and I keep getting distracted in other articles trying to find my answer. SMH a day in the life of me LOL
 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 09:51 AM
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Thanks anywho Mark... appreciate you getting back to me, so quickly. patience is not my thing... and I keep getting distracted in other articles trying to find my answer. SMH a day in the life of me LOL
To the best of my knowledge, yes, you can use the 4R70W tailshaft and transfer case adapter on the AOD or AODE. I don't have any documentation to back this up, just dim recollection from researching what it would take to convert a 2WD AOD to a 4WD for a swap I'm doing.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 09:55 AM
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Thanks... I'd think they would... but I'm not the builder... I know the AODE/4R70W are the same...
 
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this site says the tails are : https://cyclonetransmission.com/prod...g-with-gaskets ... but is the shaft [we shall find out]
 

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Just asked my boss and a lightbulb turned on... so answer to my question, as @SFaulken remembers correctly.... yes they are interchangeable. Thanks for working through my impatience with me guys!
 
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