Apparently so. And the World is not flat.

 

I guess time will tell in the long run. Good luck I really hope for your sake it turns out good. I just think you should keep your misinformation away from here. The .008 is a standard that is there as a safety net. And if as you suggest the machinist is bad .014 is only going to be more catastrophic. Since you have the only good 6.0 mechainc in the country that can pull that off. I suggest you keep that little secret to yourself.

 

Thanks. I hope so as well. Keeping my fingers crossed.

I am not sure what your definition of "misinformation" is but apparently it includes telling the truth.


Fact 1: I was told that 8/1000 was the limit for safe milling of a 6.0 head;

Fact 2: I am using a head that was milled 14/1000 of an inch (for 5,000 miles now).

Fact 3: No noticeable problems yet.

Such is all I have said.

I never made this statement or even suggested such to be true. In fact, I bet such statement is not true. Since my 14/1000 milled head is not failing I suspect there are many others out there right now we do not know about.

Why all the aggression toward different information? Are people really threatened by information that goes against "common knowledge" ?

I am not trying to hurt anyone, just posting information that I know to be true.

That said, I did not have my heads independently measured so I am trusting the word others for some of the information I provide.

 

I just want these forums to stay full of good information. What is good for the goose, isn't always good for the gander. And 5000 miles is a really small test sampling to try and reinvent the wheel with. Lets talk at 100k if you have great luck, then ill eat my hat. Until then why force it on to people trying to get their truck running correctly. Im glad its working for you but it might cause others thousands.
As to this conversation, im done. I feel im argueing with a child who has to be right. At least include a disclaimer.

 

And throwing away heads that would work perfectly well because they require 10/1000 milling will cost people thousands also.

One does not hear about the cost of throwing away good heads as such costs are difficult to see and know. I almost did and it would have cost me $2,000 (or more). Time will tell if I made the right choice.

My point is one should have their 6.0 heads milled by a machinist that knows 6.0 heads and the Ford spec. Such is more important than 8/1000 or 14/1000 values.

Think about it. Not every 6.0 head was manufactured the exact same. Because of manufacturing tolerances, milling one head 10/1000 may be the same as milling a different head 5/1000.

I only know the 14/1000 milled head is still working. Notably, the second head was milled 12/1000 and it is still working also.

 

When you had your heads milled and reinstalled did you use new push rods or the original ones? The reason I ask is because the new push rods from ford are shorter than they were originally and perhaps the reason you didn't have valve clearance problems milling more off the heads than recommended.

 

I used the new shorter push rods.

 

I was thinking of this also in another thread I asked the question. I got a "no" but it helps with rocker life. Im thinking that it would cause the valves to open less. I mean the rod is shorter how can it open the valves the same distance. But for john doe off the street when he reads head milling specs on this forum. If he mills to .014 and uses his old longer push rods. Hes probably going to be curseing Montys name for posting that all heads are millable to .014. When his motor just craped the bed. That is why im against this kind of info. To many revisions to parts and the motors to say any blanket information. Other then whats been gospel for 10 years+......safety net.

 

Make no mistake; this is a great way to win friends and influence people on this website.

 

Perhaps.

To me "internet chatter" are comments posted on the internet. "Internet chatter" may be correct and useful or incorrect and less than useful.

I am not sure how a reasonable person could be offended by such a comment.

 

No disrespect intended, but that's a huge blanket statement to make and it is incorrectly applied.

Whenever knowledge, wisdom, or personal experience is posted here (not just the 6.0L forum) to help people, and that help...that tech...over time has been challenged, vetted, verified and backed up with empirical data and facts, it is NOT internet chatter. It is verifiable fact.

It IS gospel.

Whether you choose to accept the information or not, you do a disservice to all of the very qualified people who post their knowledge and experience on the forum to help people when you dismiss all information on the forum as "internet chatter."

Stewart

 

See my post above.

If you had qualified your opinion, instead of saying "everything" which is an absolute, then it would be less bothersome to some people.

Stewart

 

Whatever.

I cannot help it if people get unreasonably offended by a comment whose meaning has to be twisted to be offensive.

What I did was post "knowledge, gained through personal experience . . . to help people" and such was referred to as "internet chatter". My use of "internet chatter" was consistent with the spirit of the initial use in the post to which I replied.

Does the meaning of "internet chatter" change depending on who is using the phrase?

 

Aw heck,,, screw the numbers,, just cut the crap outta it until its flat. That's what I got outta this thread. Although,, I'd really like to see a video of your degas pressure Monty under wot. If the heads were warped that bad,,, the block can't be flat,, I took one in and had 6 cut off the heads,, and the block took three to flatten out. But that was a total rebuild. And that one took 9 total. I stayed under 35 piston protrusion too. Quick question,,, did you get a valve grind done too?? I have cut multiple sets of heads without any grind done,,, The 8 number applies to no valve work done. And I actually stand there with the head as its being cut. I put a couple videos on here a couple days ago.

As for Internet chatter. Ask Val n Shannon if we are just keyboard junkies. The 8 suggestion can be applied WITHOUT CONCERN to any unmilled head and block. The 14 number,,, can you honestly say that you are completely confident in it? Because the 8 number is a definite,,, set in stone number. IT CAN BE DONE!!!! I've done nine,, and as customers come in,, I will keep checking,,, but if a head needs 14,,,, I'm suggesting replacement. I will put them on,,, but if there interference,,, I'd make darn sure the customer knows BEFORE I bolt them on that I can't guarantee it's good. Maybe it'd b good,,, maybe not?? But I am NOT gambling on a customers truck when there's even a little chance it's gonna be a problem. I would gamble on my truck,, if I had to. But I would have to go with the definite answer on customers trucks tho.

 

It sounds like you're the one being unreasonably offended.

Nothing was twisted. You made a statement with an absolute. I corrected your post. Nothing more.

Stewart