Just my .02,,, and I'm biased cause I've never seen a rebuilt engine that I liked. I got one that looked new also,,, but it was just paint covering old crap. Mine and Corey's both had used front covers with cavitation in the coolant pu mp bore. I also work on these,, and only these,, and I'm a picky sob. I would only go ford,, or I'd rebuild it myself. As for the warranty,,, anyone can make their warranty sound good,,, I'd like to hear from someone that actually had a warranty claim. And see how they handled it. I refused the one I got on fedex's terminal,, and I was told it would be 1200 to return it. Very long story,, that was totally documented on this forum. After my experience,,, and Corey's (creator), I'm totally biased from ANY builder except Ford. No one is gonna care about your engine as much as you. Do you know if they get new front covers,, Also,, do they say its a 20 over bore,, but if you remove the heads on a long block the warranty is void? Oh,, and it's very easy to tell if there are black diamond head gaskets just by the tabs. I firmly believe that a large percentage of these engines do not get sent to customers. They get directly sent to shops that are gonna overlook minor things because it isn't worth stopping the freight train cause a lil coal falls off. Lol. it's your truck,, and your money. I just have personal experience with two builders and they messed me up for life. I have done multiple engines since then also,,, also with zero issues. There are a million ways for a builder to get out of a warranty. If you are not gonna install it,, then what you don't know,, hopefully won't hurt you. I just told myself I was gonna tell everyone I could about my experience,,, cause it was a very horrible feeling to feel screwed out of $7k. I hope I didn't **** anyone off,, but thats my experience,, and many of you on here were riding along with me when I ordered an engine. I just checked out that link above,, I can't believe they don't use a side mounted rotating engine stand. If someone does so many of them,, I'd think they would have the most economical tools to efficiently do the job. And Ford has a no risk core policy,, and a 2 year,, unlimited mileage warranty. Just the fact that victor reinz is mentioned on that website would be enough to turn me off. The only thing they offer Ford is head gaskets,, for an extra charge. Don't we all know its go Ford hg's or don't waste your time on the 6.0!??? Wonder if they use the now infamous dorman oil cooler on their builds? I know I'm busting their chops,, but anyone that says that anything is the best,,, and mentions parts that we all know isn't the best, simply states their real world experience. Think about what a warranty claim would entail. Remove your engine,,, ship it to them,,, then wait. I just think it's a pipe dream to buy something so expensive from someone you likely will never see. Ok I'm done

 

Blackwater reman got me worse off than my old engine. .040 over bore with enough slop that I leave a nice burnt oil smoke everywhere I go. Valves were crunched up from being in an engine that lost an injector tip or two. Would not recommend the company or the people there to anyone but my worst enemy.
Ford or SuperDutyService is the only way I would go if I had someone else do the rebuild.

 

Engineering the swap...you'll regret that direction... Make a decision when all facts are known about your 6.0, then proceed... My opinion only, and no I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

Let me tell you,these guys are no B.S.,Do what they say and save yourself some BIG bucks and you will be a very happy camper.......and your piece of mind........priceless

 

I can't disagree with anything said above I can just give you information I have.

The mechanic that repaired my engine is clearly very good with 6.0 diesel engines. I got lucky. He knows his trade.

He has installed at least 10 Asheville Engines and has not had one engine issue to date. One such engine now has 130,000 on it with no issues.

Thus, whatever warranty Asheville Engines offers has been unimportant for the 10 engines mentioned above.

With regard to Victor Reinz head gaskets, I am told Victor Reinz is the company that makes Ford OEM head gaskets. Restated, when you purchase Ford OEM head gaskets you are purchasing head gasket manufactured by Victor Reinz.

Ford Head gaskets are $250 more because they come with head bolts; such head bolts that are not needed if one installs ARP head studs.

Again, I do not have a dog in this fight. I am simply supplying information that I believe to be true for your consideration.

It is a tough call, I know, I have been there.

 

Monty you can get the oem headgasket sets at tousley for $150 a side. Are VR gaskets only $50? If so im sure they are cheap for a reason. If they do make the oem versions. They are built different then the VR ones.

To the Op
Just find a good used motor. They are out there, the problem yours had is a very rare. But it comes from neglect and abuse. And possibly useing aftermaket injectors. Make sure to drain your water separator andtry to only buy fuel from large quantity stations.
Either way if your afraid of being nickel and dimed to death by a used or rebuilt motor. Just think ford is doing you the curtisy of just cutting your head off to Begin with!

 

Hmmm..... seems the discussion on this keeps coming up,I'll try to explain why to use Ford/international gaskets. First off Ford has the patent rights to the design,no one can copy it,thats why Aftermarket HG fail and yes Ford has outside sources make those gaskets. It maybe VR,felpro etc but they have the patent and no one can make it the same until the patent runs out...period

 

Good question. I do not know.

If, Ford OEM head gasket and head blots are $300 and Ford head bolts are $100 (a guess), Ford OEM head gaskets are $200 a pair.

Victor Reniz head gaskets seem to cost around $80 a pair.

Facts are Facts, and if true, such does make me go "Hummm".

 

Do you have that patent number? It should be associated with the head gasket packaging at least (or stamped on the gasket).

I searched the USPTO patent database and found no patents with "Head Gasket" in the title and owned by "Ford" Motor Company.

 

Monty, to answer your question, no I don't have the patent number,and i don't have a gasket package to look,but being a designer/builder of offshore wet headers,I have patents pending.....no one can copy my design,I am sure Ford wants to be top dog for there products and not be under cut. I know for a fact that it's got to have a patent as most parts of the 6.0 does some may have run out thats why they get "copies"

 

It's a Navistar motor so maybe you should try Navistar. Also, OEM headgaskets come with the upgraded standpipes included (which are supposed to be replaced at every removal) and the TTY bolts for those that don't have ARP's.

 

I understand. I draft patents for a living, all day long, and it kind of sucks. Like having a term paper due every day.

I am sure Ford would love to have a patent on a head gasket but head gasket technology is old. One cannot legally patent what is in the prior art (i.e. old technology).

I suspect any patent on a head gasket invention is quite limited in scope. Not saying Ford does not have a patent on their head gasket, but, until proven otherwise, I am skeptical Ford has a useful patent on their head gasket design for the 6.0 diesel.

 

Good point. I will check Navistar.

 

Well, it seems at least 33 recent Head Gasket patents have been issued that are still "live". They are all very limited to a particular feature.

I found none issued to Navistar or Ford.

 

The stock ford headbolts come with the oem gaskets as a kit for $148 a side. So $296 for a set of oems im pretty sure VR are $80 a side so $160 a set .