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Oh, one other thing. I am very diligent on maintenance - that won't be an issue. However, there might be some changes I need to make on my maintenance program. Has anything been drafted (maintenance schedules) on the forum for recommended maintenance (fluids/filters/flushes)? I guess I need to look around...
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If I pull the 6.0 out of my truck, do you recommend any work/inspection be done to it before I put it into the Excursion? I was thinking of taking the truck down to Ford and have them check it over. However, the last time I did that (30,000 miles ago), they told me I had $4,500 worth of work to do on it. I got a second opinion, changed out the ICP sensor myself and it has been running like a champ ever since. Kind of soured me on Ford service departments to be honest...
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whole fuel system, ICP sensor, HPOP. All tested fine when I got a second opinion, besides the ICP sensor, which I replaced. It sounded like they were just assuming it was going to fail since it had 100,000 miles on it. I wish I could give better detail, but that was 4 years ago. The truck runs just as good now and cold starts better up here with the change to 5w-40. Comments?
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whole fuel system, ICP sensor, HPOP. All tested fine when I got a second opinion, besides the ICP sensor, which I replaced. It sounded like they were just assuming it was going to fail since it had 100,000 miles on it. I wish I could give better detail, but that was 4 years ago. The truck runs just as good now and cold starts better up here with the change to 5w-40. Comments?
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Thanks for the tips. Now that you say that, I think I will go ahead and replace the HPOP. I have also heard that it is a good idea to replace the oil cooler at this juncture. I had also planned on doing the EGR delete, but I guess I can get a better look while the engine is out before I make that decision. While the engine is out (if I pull it), do you recommend anything else?
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I actually pulled my engine THREE TIMES!!!!! The first was at 582k mi due to the lifter life (10 were bad). I had to rebuild it again after 130k due to my STUUUUUPIDazz decision to have my cam reworked by a reputable company. I also decided to balance my crankshaft on the second rebuild,,, a local shop SCREWED me and it vibrated like crazy,, so I pulled it again and had the crank rebalanced. I can pull the engine in a couple hours,, so it's not as big if a deal to me as it would be for others. But I also did all this experimenting on MY OWN engine. No way in heck would I make any of those decisions if it was a paying job. But I wanted real world experience personally before I suggest anything to a customer.
other than that runs perfecto
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I understand that we are just speculating and talking it out here, but are we getting the cart in front of the horse? This conversation would be more productive after you pull the motor on the EX.
Seems like all the options you want to consider, have you pulling the motor. I'm a bit neive as to what is actually wrong with the engine, all I saw was a busted up injector, so I don't know what that translates into on the inside. Shouldn't you at least pull the head off and look at the inside before you start making too many plans?
Is the truck at the dealer still? My uneducated opinion on the mater would be: sell one truck, use money to fix the other. Is one of these three trucks a spare? Sell the F-350 (if your just gonna pull the motor anyway), or sell the dodge. This would help offset the cost of fixing the Excursion correctly, and not hashing something together.
OR, sell the Ex, and one truck, and find an Ex that runs. Perhaps I'm miss understanding your situation though?
Seems like all the options you want to consider, have you pulling the motor. I'm a bit neive as to what is actually wrong with the engine, all I saw was a busted up injector, so I don't know what that translates into on the inside. Shouldn't you at least pull the head off and look at the inside before you start making too many plans?
Is the truck at the dealer still? My uneducated opinion on the mater would be: sell one truck, use money to fix the other. Is one of these three trucks a spare? Sell the F-350 (if your just gonna pull the motor anyway), or sell the dodge. This would help offset the cost of fixing the Excursion correctly, and not hashing something together.
OR, sell the Ex, and one truck, and find an Ex that runs. Perhaps I'm miss understanding your situation though?
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You guys are going to be totally upset with me. I broke down, drove to Salt Lake City last night and bought ANOTHER Excursion. This time a 2000 7.3 liter with 230,000 miles, $7,900. The plan is now to sell the 2003 6.0 1 ton flatbed that I have and my Volkswagen to recover some costs. I still plan to get the 6.0 Excursion on the road as well. This way, I will have a 5.9 Cummins, 6.0, and 7.3 parked outside. This was simply to buy me some time - we needed a reliable backup vehicle as well anyway. I still plan on digging into the 6.0 before long. That is going to be our everyday driver. Hopefully you guys are still willing to help.
By the way, the 7.3 - runs like a champ. 25 degree cold start produced almost no smoke whatsoever. The thing is pristine. It was a family hauler that never saw a trailer in its life. One owner. Couldn't pass it up. We will be taking it across country and back in March. My wife is very happy.
By the way, the 7.3 - runs like a champ. 25 degree cold start produced almost no smoke whatsoever. The thing is pristine. It was a family hauler that never saw a trailer in its life. One owner. Couldn't pass it up. We will be taking it across country and back in March. My wife is very happy.
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You guys are going to be totally upset with me. I broke down, drove to Salt Lake City last night and bought ANOTHER Excursion. This time a 2000 7.3 liter with 230,000 miles, $7,900. The plan is now to sell the 2003 6.0 1 ton flatbed that I have and my Volkswagen to recover some costs. I still plan to get the 6.0 Excursion on the road as well. This way, I will have a 5.9 Cummins, 6.0, and 7.3 parked outside. This was simply to buy me some time - we needed a reliable backup vehicle as well anyway. I still plan on digging into the 6.0 before long. That is going to be our everyday driver. Hopefully you guys are still willing to help.
By the way, the 7.3 - runs like a champ. 25 degree cold start produced almost no smoke whatsoever. The thing is pristine. It was a family hauler that never saw a trailer in its life. One owner. Couldn't pass it up. We will be taking it across country and back in March. My wife is very happy.
By the way, the 7.3 - runs like a champ. 25 degree cold start produced almost no smoke whatsoever. The thing is pristine. It was a family hauler that never saw a trailer in its life. One owner. Couldn't pass it up. We will be taking it across country and back in March. My wife is very happy.
...edit sorry I thought you were selling the questionable Ex.
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The 7.3 will run great.... right up until you have to jam a pair of quarters into the injector harnesses to keep it spinning 
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You guys are going to be totally upset with me. I broke down, drove to Salt Lake City last night and bought ANOTHER Excursion. This time a 2000 7.3 liter with 230,000 miles, $7,900. The plan is now to sell the 2003 6.0 1 ton flatbed that I have and my Volkswagen to recover some costs. I still plan to get the 6.0 Excursion on the road as well. This way, I will have a 5.9 Cummins, 6.0, and 7.3 parked outside. This was simply to buy me some time - we needed a reliable backup vehicle as well anyway. I still plan on digging into the 6.0 before long. That is going to be our everyday driver. Hopefully you guys are still willing to help.
By the way, the 7.3 - runs like a champ. 25 degree cold start produced almost no smoke whatsoever. The thing is pristine. It was a family hauler that never saw a trailer in its life. One owner. Couldn't pass it up. We will be taking it across country and back in March. My wife is very happy.
By the way, the 7.3 - runs like a champ. 25 degree cold start produced almost no smoke whatsoever. The thing is pristine. It was a family hauler that never saw a trailer in its life. One owner. Couldn't pass it up. We will be taking it across country and back in March. My wife is very happy.
