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Excursion vs Suburban
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Maintenance nightmare? I've owned mine for nearly nine (9) trouble free years with zero (0) maintenance. Literally, nothing. No service. No issues. No maintenance.
The Subs with Quadrasteer, having only a 130" wheelbase, turn even tighter than the pickups, which were all extended cab and crew cab models with longer wheelbases.
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It sounded to me like he was asking about the four wheel steering aspect of the vehicle being a "maintenance nightmare," not the entire vehicle.
Obviously, the entire Suburban itself has not been discontinued, only the Quadrasteer option, which did not sell well due to the extra $7,995.00 in cost initially. GM eventually repackaged the option groups to make the Quadrasteer appear to be only $1,995.00, by pricing the other required options (like Autoride, Limited Slip, etc) separately. Not as much of a reduction in price as a redistribution of how the component options were priced.
On the subject of changing oil, I did change the rear end differential fluid within the first 3,000 miles, to remove any potential wear metals from break in. I used the special Quadrasteer lubricant obtained from the dealer. But I did the same thing to my Super Duty, which does not have rear wheel steering, so this item of maintenance has nothing to do with the rear steering, and therefore cannot be added to the so called "maintenance nightmare" mythology.
Obviously, the entire Suburban itself has not been discontinued, only the Quadrasteer option, which did not sell well due to the extra $7,995.00 in cost initially. GM eventually repackaged the option groups to make the Quadrasteer appear to be only $1,995.00, by pricing the other required options (like Autoride, Limited Slip, etc) separately. Not as much of a reduction in price as a redistribution of how the component options were priced.
On the subject of changing oil, I did change the rear end differential fluid within the first 3,000 miles, to remove any potential wear metals from break in. I used the special Quadrasteer lubricant obtained from the dealer. But I did the same thing to my Super Duty, which does not have rear wheel steering, so this item of maintenance has nothing to do with the rear steering, and therefore cannot be added to the so called "maintenance nightmare" mythology.
I obviously didn't pay attention to the details. Thought you meant no maintenance on the vehicle period - but yeah, I see you were only talking about the quadrasteer. Instead I immediately thought you were full of steer droppings.
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It sounded to me like he was asking about the four wheel steering aspect of the vehicle being a "maintenance nightmare," not the entire vehicle.
Obviously, the entire Suburban itself has not been discontinued, only the Quadrasteer option, which did not sell well due to the extra $7,995.00 in cost initially. GM eventually repackaged the option groups to make the Quadrasteer appear to be only $1,995.00, by pricing the other required options (like Autoride, Limited Slip, etc) separately. Not as much of a reduction in price as a redistribution of how the component options were priced.
On the subject of changing oil, I did change the rear end differential fluid within the first 3,000 miles, to remove any potential wear metals from break in. I used the special Quadrasteer lubricant obtained from the dealer. But I did the same thing to my Super Duty, which does not have rear wheel steering, so this item of maintenance has nothing to do with the rear steering, and therefore cannot be added to the so called "maintenance nightmare" mythology.
Obviously, the entire Suburban itself has not been discontinued, only the Quadrasteer option, which did not sell well due to the extra $7,995.00 in cost initially. GM eventually repackaged the option groups to make the Quadrasteer appear to be only $1,995.00, by pricing the other required options (like Autoride, Limited Slip, etc) separately. Not as much of a reduction in price as a redistribution of how the component options were priced.
On the subject of changing oil, I did change the rear end differential fluid within the first 3,000 miles, to remove any potential wear metals from break in. I used the special Quadrasteer lubricant obtained from the dealer. But I did the same thing to my Super Duty, which does not have rear wheel steering, so this item of maintenance has nothing to do with the rear steering, and therefore cannot be added to the so called "maintenance nightmare" mythology.
reps to you for the feedback on EXACTLY what I was asking/stating.
Glad to hear it's working great for you.
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I have a 6.0 with 172k on it. It was one of my bucket list vehicles. I shopped for my exact Ex (2005 Black 6.0) for almost 5 years. The only way I will get rid of it is if Ford builds a new EX or I wreck it.......or if I get divorced and my wife takes it She loves that thing
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The only reason I am not in a suburban is that they are so darned expensive!
These are OK, but do have some problems in the suspension department. The IFS and stock suspension is a lot more smooth though, and the fuel mileage is a LOT different. IMHO, the 5.3 with sequential cylinder shutdown is the bees knees!
These are OK, but do have some problems in the suspension department. The IFS and stock suspension is a lot more smooth though, and the fuel mileage is a LOT different. IMHO, the 5.3 with sequential cylinder shutdown is the bees knees!
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We decided to get Chinese tonight and ironically after reading through this thread look who we ended up beside. I did a walk around and have to say from the outside it paled in comparison to the Ex. But I might be a little biased 
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