HPFP failures
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Seems like unneccessary complexity to me. Reminds me of oil injection on modern two-stroke outboards. Rather than bother the owner with mixing fuel these engines have a tank to fill which automatically injects oil into the gasoline in the correct mixture. These systems add complexity to already expensive engines and when they fail the engine self destructs. Simply mixing the oil with gasoline is foolproof and cheaper!
NOT that this is necessary like mixed gas is on a 2-stroke or anything. I had no trouble dumping some additive in every time I filled up.
NOT that this is necessary like mixed gas is on a 2-stroke or anything. I had no trouble dumping some additive in every time I filled up.
Should never be necessary with the fuel you buy, but if you believe lubricity, or lack thereof, is causing these failures, for your own piece of mind, add something that lowers the wear scar value of your fuel at every fill up.
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This was always my thinking, and is why I always used additive in both diesel trucks. With the fuel economy improvements I noticed this additive turned out to be FREE insurance.
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You may want to check out the VW forums, they're having the same problem of HPFP's grenading throughout the fuel system. And, coincidentally, it's a Bosch pump.
VW currently under investigation by the NTSB - Bob Is The Oil Guy
And there is a NTSB investigation.
Gov't expands investigation of VW diesel cars - BusinessWeek
Coincidence? Couldn't tell you, but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck....
VW currently under investigation by the NTSB - Bob Is The Oil Guy
And there is a NTSB investigation.
Gov't expands investigation of VW diesel cars - BusinessWeek
Coincidence? Couldn't tell you, but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck....
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NinerBikes .... happens alot more than you would think. Lend your truck to a friend and they are considerate enought to top up your tank. In goes the gas. One of the reasons I dont lend out my truck but it does happen. $12K mistake when it does.
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I don't lend my guns, my gal, my fly rods, or my vehicle, to anyone. Neither a borrower, nor lender be... It got real old in my teens and 20's, having a truck, always having friends wanting to borrow it to move, and the tank coming back empty, and something else broken on it. No thanks... those days are over, learned my lesson the hard way at someone elses expense. Too many folks treat equipment like rental stuff with the way they drive, if it isn't their's. Especially contractors...
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I don't lend my guns, my gal, my fly rods, or my vehicle, to anyone. Neither a borrower, nor lender be... It got real old in my teens and 20's, having a truck, always having friends wanting to borrow it to move, and the tank coming back empty, and something else broken on it. No thanks... those days are over, learned my lesson the hard way at someone elses expense. Too many folks treat equipment like rental stuff with the way they drive, if it isn't their's. Especially contractors...
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Tuned
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From: Southern Ontario
I wonder why there are more when it gets colder out? People rushing maybe.
sarcasm alert!
In addition to the tank to disperse additives maybe Ford should comeup with a sensor that detects if you have inserted the wrong nozzle. Or better yet a release on the fuel door that won't open until it sniffs diesel!
sarcasm alert!
In addition to the tank to disperse additives maybe Ford should comeup with a sensor that detects if you have inserted the wrong nozzle. Or better yet a release on the fuel door that won't open until it sniffs diesel!
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I always wondered what kind of protection the system has.
one of our idiot drivers put gas in one of the F550's and drove down the road till it quit.
drained the tank and flushed the system and its still on the road today - and that was over 100,000 miles ago.
one of our idiot drivers put gas in one of the F550's and drove down the road till it quit.
drained the tank and flushed the system and its still on the road today - and that was over 100,000 miles ago.
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From: Isanti, MN
But which engine does this truck have?
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contaminated fuel
I own a 2011 6.7 liter I have 12,000 miles on it and have $8500 in damage that Ford is not covering by warranty. If contaminated fuel gets into the motor isnt it the filter system that failed. I know of two other trucks within 50 miles of me with same damage, Ford paid for one. One man spent $14000 , and I must pay $8500 Help me out here I am not good on a computer but am mad as hell that a $55,000 truck has this issue.
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The filter removes "large" solid objects from the fuel supply, but can't do anything if a foreign fluid was introduced into the fuel.
So, comparing your case with the other two you mentioned is invalid as we don't have any specific details about anything, and comparisons would be mere speculation.
Do you have any details as to the exact contamination found?
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contaminated fuel
Thanks, All circumstances are the same. Damage to the HP fuel system from "contaminated fuel" in my case, nothing happened as far as truck shutdown, I took it to my dealer when check engine light came on for another reason. No water in fuel light yet local fuel distributor found water in fuel. It is simply not possible for motoring public to know if contaminates are going past fuel filters. What value are the filters if "contaminates get past sensors and filters