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Paul, I pulled that deuce out every time it got stuck. Wasn't all that easy, but I know of 3 times for sure. The once in the picture(had to pull it out backwards), one time he nose dived it into the ground going down a steep *** hill, and one time in the swap when one front tire was totally covered in mud, and the other 3 half gone. That time, I broke my 6 inch wide recovery strap
I had to take 30+ ft runs at the end of the straps we had hooked together. We got lucky no one got killed, when the strap broke, the front bumper on the deuce caught a crevice, and put a one inch deep dent in it.
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WWII International 6X6 Wrecker her a old school duce with a bing enoght crane to get dan fat ars in to it
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THAT'S THE ONE!!!! If you own that, jealousy is setting in. Bigtime.
That's actually nicer than the one I saw. And I have an ancient Ford crescent wrench from a farm equipment dealership...in your face kinda. No, that chainsaw is cool. Eat your heart out Bruce Campbell, THE BEST NEVER REST!
That's actually nicer than the one I saw. And I have an ancient Ford crescent wrench from a farm equipment dealership...in your face kinda. No, that chainsaw is cool. Eat your heart out Bruce Campbell, THE BEST NEVER REST!
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no i don't own it, i just snagged a pic off the webz to see what they looked like. site i got it from says they are just a rebadged repainted model from a company named e&s or something like that, still cool.
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Well, while I respect your opinion as a fellow enthusiast, I must say being a former diesel mechanic (former thanks to the economy), and living in truck pulling country I can tell you first hand that the DT is both a tougher engine, thus capable of more power. If you're a cummins nut, I'm almost sure you've heard of "enterprise diesel performance" (or wtf ever Dave Mitchell calls that place). His shop is about 12 miles from me, so I've seen plenty of cummins making way more power than they were ever meant to. Aaaaaand I've seen hundreds scatter and fill their diapers.
I'm not neccessarily bashing your beloved oilburner, they're great little engines that have made quite a rep for themselves, rightfully so. I just don't buy into the hype that there's nothing better or that there isn't any competition for them. The "cummin apart" thing, kinda like me pokin at a chebbie guy for liking his "big 350", no harm meant.
Also, did you know when the mighty little 5.9 was on the drawing board, it was (in addition to other industrial applications) wanted by ford for their medium duty trucks as an economy diesel alternative to their other options? In addition to that, a few very early (very rare, but I have seen one) 5.9 blocks have a little oval cast in a couple places on the block!
Did you also know that Case (as in the guys who bought IH's farm equipment division) helped design the 5.9? And that during this process and in the early days of production, Cummins couldn't cast a block (maybe among other parts, I can't remember for sure) that small in house, so for a while that had to be outsourced til they retooled to be able to do it themselves. Now that I've jacked the thread, I'll leave with a question and an answer....would anyone like to guess who originally cast the 5.9 block? (it's not uncommon to find THEIR logo cast into the block behind the timing cover, it's pretty big and almost always painted over in a familiar blue of their own brand)...you guessed it, Navistar/IH
yay for the only other US company to make everything from farm equipment to pickem ups!!! LoL
I'm not neccessarily bashing your beloved oilburner, they're great little engines that have made quite a rep for themselves, rightfully so. I just don't buy into the hype that there's nothing better or that there isn't any competition for them. The "cummin apart" thing, kinda like me pokin at a chebbie guy for liking his "big 350", no harm meant.
Also, did you know when the mighty little 5.9 was on the drawing board, it was (in addition to other industrial applications) wanted by ford for their medium duty trucks as an economy diesel alternative to their other options? In addition to that, a few very early (very rare, but I have seen one) 5.9 blocks have a little oval cast in a couple places on the block!
Did you also know that Case (as in the guys who bought IH's farm equipment division) helped design the 5.9? And that during this process and in the early days of production, Cummins couldn't cast a block (maybe among other parts, I can't remember for sure) that small in house, so for a while that had to be outsourced til they retooled to be able to do it themselves. Now that I've jacked the thread, I'll leave with a question and an answer....would anyone like to guess who originally cast the 5.9 block? (it's not uncommon to find THEIR logo cast into the block behind the timing cover, it's pretty big and almost always painted over in a familiar blue of their own brand)...you guessed it, Navistar/IH
yay for the only other US company to make everything from farm equipment to pickem ups!!! LoL
If I could have only one diesel in a pick-up it would be a 12V, P7100 Cummins though.
I was waiting for the "Ford owns Cummins" crap to start flying, glad it didn't. As far as I know Case played a HUGE part (50/50?) in the development of the 6BT, 4B, 4BT and the three cylinder versions.
Ford did own 5% of Cummins, (I think around '97) Cummins bought their percentage back.
You could get a Cummins in an F-650 or 750, maybe still can, not sure.
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you were close.
ford owned 10% of cummins back in the 80's, and that is why ford was involved with the development of the 5.9 for use in the F-series pickup. when the deal with cummins did not work out, ford went with international/navistar and sold their shares of cummins in either 87 or 88 if i remember correctly.
cummins, not having a user for the 5.9 went to dodge to revive the diesel pickup they toyed with in the late 70's when they put a perkins diesel i believe it was in their pickups. but it did not go over at all, cause they were slower than a dead snail.
the 5.9 option in the 650-750 trucks ended when freightliner/sterling/damler took over the production of the medium truck line
ford owned 10% of cummins back in the 80's, and that is why ford was involved with the development of the 5.9 for use in the F-series pickup. when the deal with cummins did not work out, ford went with international/navistar and sold their shares of cummins in either 87 or 88 if i remember correctly.
cummins, not having a user for the 5.9 went to dodge to revive the diesel pickup they toyed with in the late 70's when they put a perkins diesel i believe it was in their pickups. but it did not go over at all, cause they were slower than a dead snail.
the 5.9 option in the 650-750 trucks ended when freightliner/sterling/damler took over the production of the medium truck line
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Paul, I pulled that deuce out every time it got stuck. Wasn't all that easy, but I know of 3 times for sure. The once in the picture(had to pull it out backwards), one time he nose dived it into the ground going down a steep *** hill, and one time in the swap when one front tire was totally covered in mud, and the other 3 half gone. That time, I broke my 6 inch wide recovery strap I had to take 30+ ft runs at the end of the straps we had hooked together.
We got lucky no one got killed, when the strap broke, the front bumper on the deuce caught a crevice, and put a one inch deep dent in it.
I had to take 30+ ft runs at the end of the straps we had hooked together. We got lucky no one got killed, when the strap broke, the front bumper on the deuce caught a crevice, and put a one inch deep dent in it.
Dave is just mad his wittle truck had to pull out the big bad deuce so many times
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Yes, u r right!
Deuces make me angry. Just thinkin bout it makes me angry. Stupid 8000+ pound pigs.
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you, stay out of North Virginia!!
out of curiosity, what part of "the mother land" are you from? I have lots of family down that way...I'm sure the tree even gets tangled a bit bc of it lol. My grandpa is from Burnsville in Braxton county. He always tells me "West Virginia went to Ohio, & Ohio went to hell"....stupid coal mines.
Anyway, fixin on visiting Burnsville this spring. I'd love to wheel in WV sometime, trees + hills = how we roll.
out of curiosity, what part of "the mother land" are you from? I have lots of family down that way...I'm sure the tree even gets tangled a bit bc of it lol. My grandpa is from Burnsville in Braxton county. He always tells me "West Virginia went to Ohio, & Ohio went to hell"....stupid coal mines.
Anyway, fixin on visiting Burnsville this spring. I'd love to wheel in WV sometime, trees + hills = how we roll.
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YouTube - friday 006.AVI
YouTube - Movie_0001.wmv
vids are from 08
N I can admit the military tire he chose wasn't the greatest tire, but Idk how much of a difference some other ones would have been... and I think they where 49s not 53s now that I think about it..
YouTube - Movie_0001.wmv
vids are from 08
N I can admit the military tire he chose wasn't the greatest tire, but Idk how much of a difference some other ones would have been... and I think they where 49s not 53s now that I think about it..
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you were close.
ford owned 10% of cummins back in the 80's, and that is why ford was involved with the development of the 5.9 for use in the F-series pickup. when the deal with cummins did not work out, ford went with international/navistar and sold their shares of cummins in either 87 or 88 if i remember correctly.
cummins, not having a user for the 5.9 went to dodge to revive the diesel pickup they toyed with in the late 70's when they put a perkins diesel i believe it was in their pickups. but it did not go over at all, cause they were slower than a dead snail.
the 5.9 option in the 650-750 trucks ended when freightliner/sterling/damler took over the production of the medium truck line
ford owned 10% of cummins back in the 80's, and that is why ford was involved with the development of the 5.9 for use in the F-series pickup. when the deal with cummins did not work out, ford went with international/navistar and sold their shares of cummins in either 87 or 88 if i remember correctly.
cummins, not having a user for the 5.9 went to dodge to revive the diesel pickup they toyed with in the late 70's when they put a perkins diesel i believe it was in their pickups. but it did not go over at all, cause they were slower than a dead snail.
the 5.9 option in the 650-750 trucks ended when freightliner/sterling/damler took over the production of the medium truck line
Dodge and Cummins sent out a press release to their dealers in the '95-'97 era/area stating the version I quote is infact the case.
The story that Ford owned Cummins was repeated so many times it just got accepted as fact by most people.
(Kind of like the story that Mattel toy company made M-16s. B.S.!)
One of my friends works at a Dodge dealer (Ryan Russel; Lithia Dodge; Eugene, OR) ) and he showed me a copy when it came out. I have seen that version quoted/used in far more "official" stories in magazines and other publications so it's the one I personally believe and use.
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While Matel didn't make the m-16's they did in fact make the stocks and put their "made by Matel" mark on the bottom of the stock on the early models.
