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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Glow plug sticky cleanup thread

dude, awesome idea. and props to the mod who decided to make it a sticky. good thinkin' ya'll!
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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What is an International Glow Plug Deactivation Kit? First I've heard of it.

I'm assuming from its description that it opens the GPR coil above 115 degrees F.

Got any more information on its use? Is it only OEM on Navistars?

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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Ive never had a hard start or a lot of white smoke during are brutle central florida winters
 
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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Ok kiddies, I did everything this weekend, but I have a problem (other than finding an extra rocker arm under the passenger side valve cover between cylinders 1 and 3 ) The little black plug that goes onto the white wire that hooks up to the glow plug itself is worn out. Apparently it was up against a push rod for cylinder 3 for some time, and it has worn about 75% of the wire away. After changing everything out, I'm still seeing white smoke at startup, so I'm guessing that cylinder is causing the white smoke. So, would this be all I need?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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When you guys are talking about hard starts, are you referring to it not wanting to crank at all or the romp romp romp that mine made when I cranked it this morn in 38degree weather here in NWFL? I read a "Ford" fix that said to use a thinner CF grade oil...10W-30...I think is what it was.(Don't take my word on that though) But you guys have me wanting to check my GPR. If that is going bad will it throw a code that my programmer will pick up? I looked at the GPR replacement in my Chilton Manual and it doesn't look to bad to replace if need be. Any insight????
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:47 AM
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When you guys are talking about hard starts, are you referring to it not wanting to crank at all or the romp romp romp that mine made when I cranked it this morn in 38degree weather here in NWFL? I read a "Ford" fix that said to use a thinner CF grade oil...10W-30...I think is what it was.(Don't take my word on that though) But you guys have me wanting to check my GPR. If that is going bad will it throw a code that my programmer will pick up? I looked at the GPR replacement in my Chilton Manual and it doesn't look to bad to replace if need be. Any insight????
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if your truck wont start touch both big posts on gpr together with a screwdriver for about 15 seconds. then hop in truck and start. if it works its your gpr thats bad if not you got gp issues.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Can I use the GPR 109 on my 01 PSD truck?? Ford wants $101 for one!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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I belive yo can but not for suer, I have a 97 and obs truck and they wanted to sell me GPR110 for 90 or so but from all the checking I've done it seems that all the internals of the two GPR's are the same. and should work!J
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wycowboy
I belive yo can but not for suer, I have a 97 and obs truck and they wanted to sell me GPR110 for 90 or so but from all the checking I've done it seems that all the internals of the two GPR's are the same. and should work!J
I got one at lunch (the 109). It looks the same, with two large studs and two smaller ones. I will put it on tonight and let you know how it goes.

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by onebadf250
When you guys are talking about hard starts, are you referring to it not wanting to crank at all or the romp romp romp that mine made when I cranked it this morn in 38degree weather here in NWFL? I read a "Ford" fix that said to use a thinner CF grade oil...10W-30...I think is what it was.(Don't take my word on that though) But you guys have me wanting to check my GPR. If that is going bad will it throw a code that my programmer will pick up? I looked at the GPR replacement in my Chilton Manual and it doesn't look to bad to replace if need be. Any insight????
Thanks,
Rob
Yes the ROMP ROMP ROMP is a fine indication that something in not working, it would be accompanied by a fair to moderate amount of white smoke.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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Ok, I installed the gpr 109 last night, and have a couple of questions.

1. What does the bigger solinoid that is in front of the GPR do?
2. Do the glow plugs come on when starting a warm engine?

My engine had been off for maybe 10-15 minutes (while switching solinoids),
and it did not power the solinoid when I turned on the key.

I have not tried it again yet.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cangim
Yes the ROMP ROMP ROMP is a fine indication that something in not working, it would be accompanied by a fair to moderate amount of white smoke.
No white smoke...Only black when I gouge on it. It has never done the romp romp crank before...Just started since it got cold. Could it still have something to do with the GPR? I can cycle my glow plugs a couple of times and it will crank fine...I've noticed that my oil pressure light stays on a couple of seconds longer than usual. Makes me think the oil is a little to thick and is taking a little longer to get flowing...anybody else got any suggestions???? Had similar problem???
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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i thought i have heard in the past the nbs trucks(99-03) have 2 gprs???????????
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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No white smoke...Only black when I gouge on it. It has never done the romp romp crank before...Just started since it got cold. Could it still have something to do with the GPR? I can cycle my glow plugs a couple of times and it will crank fine...I've noticed that my oil pressure light stays on a couple of seconds longer than usual. Makes me think the oil is a little to thick and is taking a little longer to get flowing...anybody else got any suggestions???? Had similar problem???
chances are you are using some form of 15w-40. you can use i believe 5w-30 i think.... it is same diesel motor oil just different weight. i know in delo 400 its available.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 1997F-350
i thought i have heard in the past the nbs trucks(99-03) have 2 gprs???????????
I will get a picture of it this weekend. The one in the back is just like the gpr 109 (except for mounting tabs are 90 degrees different), and the one in front is like 4-5" tall.

I replaced the rear one and it seems to work fine now.

Tim
 
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