Originally Posted by FordLariat

That's the first time I ever heard anyone complain about the 460 and call it a car engine. I don't know of any major durability issues with the 460, but Ihave heard about quite a few things with the 454, I know of injection problems, head problems, coolant system problems and ignition problems. The 460 was used in heavy duty applications because of it's ability to tow quite a bit at highway speeds, and plus it was a very durable engine.


As far as getting rid of the 7.3, that was something that had to be done, not just to keep up with the Dmax. Emissions requirememnts forced Ford to get a new diesel. Also, I reckon that you're talking about the 500 or so confirmed 6.0s that were buybacks or lemons when you're talking about the ones having strokes? I guess the Duramax passes them, unless it's loaded, because the IFS Duramax truck can't tow as much as the new Ford. I don't even think that the Duramax can pass the PSD unloaded either, though, I'll have to find that test again.

Originally Posted by franktheman

First off-I like Chevys-and I like Fords-I may as well come clean all the way-I like Dodges too!
I've owned all three-worst piece of crap I've ever owned was a Ford truck,(2 of them are tied for that spot)
But-the best truck I've ever owned yet is also a Ford!

All have pro's and cons to them...I'm pretty handy at times with repairs-but certainly NO mechanic...lol.
All I have to offer are real life experiences with all three.

As far as the 460-454 thing goes...lol...I'm bustin ***** bro.

I've never owned either-just lookin to stir the pot a bit...lol.

I re-read my post and realized I prolly offended some fellow truckers with my sarcastic remarks bout the PSD "having a stroke"-my apologies-It's really NOT a funny thing to have happen when you buy a new truck you trust in.

As far as the Duramax goes-I don't like the idea behind it either-but they WERE desperate for something-anything!
Ford already had the #1 diesel in America-the 7.3 PSD-why change it?
I'm sure it'll turn out to be a fine motor in the long haul,but how many guys are going to experience the same/more problems in the future till all the quirks are worked out?

Sure I can understand a few motors come out just plain bad from the get go-but this seems pretty common from what I've read so far.
I'm not sure I really want one now...
Where's all the pre market testing gone to?
As far as the Cummins goes-from what I've read around -you are right-but at least I know it's proven itself time and again in reliability,and it's still the same ole motor,so if I were in the market for a new diesel-it'd prolly be the way to go-as the duramax still hasint proven anything to me yet-that thing needs double the caution before you buy time because of the aluminum heads they utilize.

Back on to the 460 vs 454 thing, -thanks dude you taught me something....lol.


Regards.