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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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No upgrades/modifications, just fuel amd repair expenses
 
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
Truck/odometer pic taken today. Scaled weight tickets when new from the dealer with me and a full tank of gas and what the truck weighs now with me in it and a full tank of gas.

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Scaled 9/14/08 and 6/1/10


New:......Steer 3900#, Drive 3320#, Total 7220#
Present: Steer 4040#, Drive 4180#, Total 8220#
At first I thought I read your odometer wrong and it was 9,200, but once I looked again I saw the true number! You get the "Dedicated Truck Guy of The Month Award" hands down!! Very nice!!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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What are we supposed to be testing? All I've seen is pictures of trucks and odometer readings? I'll take a shot of my odometer tomorrow if you want.

I still don't get the V-10 vs PSD arguments. Each motor has it's own strength and weaknesses. I'll add a picture tomorrow.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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The first post kinda sums it up. This thread is an offshoot of the "V10 vs PSD" thread and isn't really meant to end the bickering, but more for everyone selected (see first post) to track their expenses for a year. Fuel, maintenance and repairs will be tracked as well as miles driven (which explains the odometer pics) so we as well as potential owners can get a real world idea of what each truck might cost to own over and above the price of the truck. The odometer pics are just a baseline for the test.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
The first post kinda sums it up. This thread is an offshoot of the "V10 vs PSD" thread and isn't really meant to end the bickering, but more for everyone selected (see first post) to track their expenses for a year. Fuel, maintenance and repairs will be tracked as well as miles driven (which explains the odometer pics) so we as well as potential owners can get a real world idea of what each truck might cost to own over and above the price of the truck. The odometer pics are just a baseline for the test.
Exactly.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks Sand_Man, 4 previous Ford trucks with over 200k on them also. The miles can rack up quick sometimes.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Just curious, but have you had any problems with your V10? I hope mine lasts forever, because for me, it's perfect. I've only put about 10K miles on it since I've owned it, but thus far it has been trouble-free. (knock on wood)
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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No not a problem at all just the usual preventive maintenance(oil, brakes, filters). Last oil change noticed oil on the seal of the oil pan towards the back, posted in the V10 forum and possible a main seal weeping little I'll keep an eye on it if it starts losing oil I'll take it in. That's one of the wear and tear items that happens no sweat.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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I have a friend that has over 300,000 on his 99 V10 2wd and it still runs great, He did have a complete tune up a few years ago. $1,800.00 but he says it still gets 13 MPG doesn't burn oil. It spit out a spark plug after the Tune up. He loves it. He never changes the oil in the dang thing. Puts a new filter on ever year or so and tops it off with Mobil 1. Hes towed som stupid stuff with it. A case 980E It weighs 13,000#s by itself. The trailer must weigh another 8,000#s It leask tranny fluid when he tows that thing though.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Sorry I have not been on here much, but I will get the pics up that I took last week of the gauge as soon as I can get my computer to recognize the card.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 01:21 AM
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The truck...





And the odometer.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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The reason for so few 6 leakers is that most of them are in the shop.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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The reason for so few 6 leakers is that most of them are in the shop.
The rest are on the side of the road.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pappy19
The reason for so few 6 leakers is that most of them are in the shop.
And the rest are on the side of the road.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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I have a feeling that this post will generally go unnoticed or unread, but that's okay. We all need to remember to take this "test" with "a grain of salt" as they say. I'm NOT trying to come off as some scientific ***** or anything, just throwing out my two cents just as anyone else here.

-This test needs to be looked at as an experiment and nothing more than that. No conclusions can be made from this test. For any REAL, HARD, or SCIENTIFIC data to proven, EACH truck would have to go through IDENTICAL tests. This includes: Miles driven, acceleration/braking speeds, road conditions such as paved/rough and % of incline and decline, tires (tread), axle ratios, and numerous other factors that would take pages to list.
-Repairs: Every truck would have had to have had everything repaired or replaced at the same time, or each truck would have to be the same from the factory in every way, and that is absolutely impossible for this test. If one V10 loses a Coil on Plug, or a PSD loses a glow plug, that CAN'T be taken as data because things break at any given time on a vehicle for SO MANY different reasons. If you took this to a small scale test, and compared </i>one</i> V10 to <i>one</i> PSD, and <i>one</i> truck had <i>one</i> thing go wrong, that is in no way, shape or form, data. that's just an event in the life of a vehicle.

-The only way to ever get an REAL data is if an independent entity ran comparisons from zero miles and did the same test to each truck in the same conditions with about, say, 100-500 trucks. Then, you could actually start to see a good baseline of data, and with that many trucks, it would toss out the freak costs of things such as spark plugs blowing out of the head, rearends breaking, Mass Air Flow sensors going bad, and so on. With that many trucks you could see if there is a common problem, like the exhaust manifold studs breaking on the 99-mid 2000 year modular engines. Now that IS data, and IS a repair that almost everyone will eventually have to do. It's only the <i>common</i> problems that can be taken as data.

-Now that I have proven myself to be an over analyzing buzz kill, you can continue to go about this test. but again, take this as a fun experiment and only that. I know that this is what your original intention was, was to have a fun experiment and show the results. I understand that fully and actually AM interested in the results. I'm just trying to show that people CANNOT take this as any definitive answer as to whether or not a V10 or a PSD costs less to maintain or is better in that manner.
 

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