1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Air Bag Install Opinions

  #1  
Old 04-19-2010, 10:44 PM
preppypyro's Avatar
preppypyro
preppypyro is offline
FTE Legend
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Central Rural Sask.
Posts: 37,859
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Air Bag Install Opinions

Hey guys n gals.

I bought some used airbags that came with these brackets, that dont quite line up to the bolts on my fifth wheel hitch rails.

I was thinking of just cutting the bracket, and using two large bolts that line up to some holes in my frame. (the bottom brackets just slid over the u bolts on the rear diff, so I didnt take a picture of them, there doesnt seem to be a problem there yet!)

Im just looking for opinions if you guys think that would be strong enough, maybe a guy should drill a few more holes, etc.

I attached a couple of pictures, it was getting dark so the pictures arent perfect, and neither are my paint skills, but hopefully you guys n gals can see what I am talking about!



 
  #2  
Old 04-20-2010, 06:08 PM
preppypyro's Avatar
preppypyro
preppypyro is offline
FTE Legend
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Central Rural Sask.
Posts: 37,859
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Wow not one opinion at all?!

There must be some fabricators out there, not all of you guys just do the bolt on mods do ya?!
 
  #3  
Old 04-20-2010, 06:20 PM
HKusp's Avatar
HKusp
HKusp is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Perry Hall, Maryland.
Posts: 7,760
Received 26 Likes on 20 Posts
I have been looking at airbags lately too. My interest has piqued due to being in the middle of replacing the auto leveling system on my wife's Expy. I don't see why what you are trying to do wouldn't work. I would consider also running a nice weld in a few places too. Just get them lined up with the bolts like you are talking about then weld them in place for added security.
 
  #4  
Old 04-20-2010, 06:52 PM
4inchlovin's Avatar
4inchlovin
4inchlovin is offline
Post Fiend

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Santa Cruz Ca.
Posts: 5,575
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Those are very different looking brackets then my airbags came with... What brand of airbag are you using?
 
  #5  
Old 04-20-2010, 07:02 PM
F350-6's Avatar
F350-6
F350-6 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 26,966
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 20 Posts
What is your reasoning for cutting off the back of the bracket (#1 side)? It appears to slip over the frame. Is the offset preventing it from fitting? Is the mounting bracket from your 5th wheel next to hole #2 going to make the bracket sit crooked? Last, how does the top bracket line up compared to the bottom one? You want to make sure the airbag is straight up and down, not angled in or out or cockeyed somehow.

Modifying the bracket is possible, but it needs to rest snug up against the frame or spacers. You don't want a gap between the bracket and frame. How does it fit if you just cut off the top part that's made to slip over the frame?
 
  #6  
Old 04-20-2010, 07:10 PM
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead
Kwikkordead is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rio Rico, AZ.
Posts: 24,481
Received 778 Likes on 594 Posts
I wouldn't weld on the frame.
I don't know if it is true in Ford's case, but I see a lot of big trucks going by with a label on the frame warning not to weld on the frame.
I'm assuming it is because the frame is heat treated and welding will ruin that tempering.
 
  #7  
Old 04-20-2010, 07:13 PM
preppypyro's Avatar
preppypyro
preppypyro is offline
FTE Legend
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Central Rural Sask.
Posts: 37,859
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
On the number 1 side, the L piece that goes over the frame, lhalf lines up with the bolts that are installed on my 5th wheel rails in the box, they arent close enough that they would work, to bolt in place, so I have to do some cutting somewhere, just trying to determine the best place.

That fifth wheel bracket near number 2 will make things crooked, but I was going to just undo that one for now, and see what I came up with (temporary solution, depending how it fits)

I cant really tell how lined up the top and bottom brackets are going to be yet, cause I cant quite fit the top bracket into place, but they appear like they will be lined up just fine.

The bags I bought were used off of a f250 (longbox if you havent guessed!!) and they are firestone ride rite's.

A buddy at work suggested I cut everything off of either side of the top bracket, weld on some new tabs that go over the frame, and drill a couple of holes.

I also agree about the welding on the frame, and wouldnt weld on the frame. Im reluctant to drill a couple of holes there too, but im sure a few extra holes, one on each side, wouldnt hurt.
 
  #8  
Old 04-20-2010, 07:23 PM
F350-6's Avatar
F350-6
F350-6 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 26,966
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 20 Posts
If you've got access to a torch Sheldon, start by cutting the brackets that go over the frame off. Then try and fit it in there and go from there. Cutting off a little bit of the bracket at a time might take time, but it will get you a better fit and help you understand what you need to do.

I've seen plenty of airbag brackets that are not anywhere near as stout as the one you have, so I wouldn't worry too much about cutting it down some. You are just going to have to make sure it all lines up correctly.
 
  #9  
Old 04-20-2010, 09:35 PM
preppypyro's Avatar
preppypyro
preppypyro is offline
FTE Legend
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Central Rural Sask.
Posts: 37,859
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Well in the end I pretty much had to cut it down like I had planned in my first post, I just have to trim a little more, so I can make sure the air bag is straight up and down, and doesnt have a bit of a tilt to it at the top.

Didnt take hardly any time at all to cut those brackets down either.
 
  #10  
Old 04-20-2010, 09:58 PM
bdrummonds's Avatar
bdrummonds
bdrummonds is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Millbrook Alabama
Posts: 5,584
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you do know that ride rite has a bracket made to fit with 5er hitches, right? Ford Super Duty F250 / F350 Firestone Air Bags 1999-2004 - (# 2330) Suspension Air Bag Helper Springs
 
  #11  
Old 04-20-2010, 10:40 PM
preppypyro's Avatar
preppypyro
preppypyro is offline
FTE Legend
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Central Rural Sask.
Posts: 37,859
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Unfortunately Brandon, thats about 220 bucks more then I want to spend on the brackets!

I did look to see if the brackets were sold separately, but I couldnt find any for cheaper then 180 bucks, which isnt worth it.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
preppypyro
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
23
03-17-2023 01:23 PM
preppypyro
Manitoba / Saskatchewan Chapter
15
05-09-2010 11:24 PM
preppypyro
Manitoba / Saskatchewan Chapter
31
01-31-2010 09:11 AM
preppypyro
Manitoba / Saskatchewan Chapter
21
10-22-2009 10:19 AM
preppypyro
Manitoba / Saskatchewan Chapter
30
02-13-2009 12:38 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Air Bag Install Opinions



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:10 PM.