Doesnt matter whos calling what what .........they didnt make a 4x4 with dual rear wheels back then.
They were conversions the factory didnt make them.

 

"In some cases, commercial pickup trucks can be purchased without a bed at all; the fuel tank and driveline are visible and easily accessible through the top of the frame rails until a proper bed (many times customized to fit a particular business' needs) is attached by the customer. These are called "Cab & Chassis" models"
Heres a qoute also from wikipedia from under pickup trucks which refers to cc as a commercial "pickup"

 

73 FordF100,
I worked for a truck dealership from 1973 to 1981. We sold Ford Chev Gmc and IHC Trucks only, no cars. One of my jobs was to order trucks for stock and place special orders for customers. There were NO dual rear wheels 73-79 4x4 Ford trucks from the factory. No pickups and no cab & chasis in 4x4 with dual wheels. I wish there were some because I lusted for one. I made several request to Ford for these because we had customers that wanted them especially after the winters of 77 to 79. We did order and sell some conversions but they were very expensive and questions over who was responsible for the warranty on a converted truck. We bought the new truck from Ford then had them ship it to the converter then had it shipped to our lot. (double the shipping cost.)
The only factory ones that could possibly have been built is maybe some factory test mules that would have been destroyed after testing.
The factory conversions that we sold were F350s,dual rears, cab and chassis that had a Dana 60 installed in the front. They sat very high so the axle could clear the huge Twin I Beam cross-member that had a pocket cut into it for the axle center to have clearance. They looked very factory but they weren't. I don't remember how much they cost but they were almost double the price of a new truck.
I still have the original sales literature for 79 ford 4x4 trucks. I does not list any dual rear wheel option for 4x4.
I am the first person to admit there are exceptions to every rule but I just don't see it in this case.
I think if you look under the front of one of these 4x4 dually trucks you will be able to see its a converted 2wd.
Maybe Number Dummy can weigh in on this and put the final word on this subject.

 

True....but it would prevent confusion on later models.

 

Yes sir i agree with that statement

 

Bart, I think most of the trucks in question are early F-250's with the narrow frame rails......that allow duals to be bolted to the stock rear axle. The rest, as you said, are 2wd chassis cabs with front drive axles added.

 

Thanks 4x4 Bart, you really put things in perspective and now its all clear to me and makes a whole lot of sense that they were converted duallies and did not come from the factory that way.

 

Hillbilly got it right,a "Dually " is a dual rear wheel pickup .a cab and chassis is not a dually though alot of people call anything with DRW`s a Dually.This all started in 73 when Chevy came out with the first DRW pickup they called it "Big Dually" and for many years people stopped calling them Big Dually and just Dually .For many years when you reffered to a Dually it was understood that you meant a Dual Rear Wheel pickup after a while people started calling everything DRW a Dually.

 

LOL it doesn't matter what you call them a dually was called a dually waaaay before chevy came out with a dually pickup box. It just depends on what part of the country you are in I guess. Like the f350 cab and chassis being called a truck, lots of people in this country will ask you what you are talking about, here a truck starts out with a 2 ton and goes up this has been slowly changeing with the younger crowd though.

 

Well, i agree it must be a regional thing. If its a dually its a dually, as in 4 rear wheels on the axle. Bed or not. A truck is a Truck, aka 2ton or heavier like an F-700 or a kenworth 10 wheeler. Chassis cab or not its still a pickup. bed or not... a pickup. the same applies if its a dually, bed or not or cargo box even, its a dually pickup.
By all means flame me if you like, but please dont, not saying this is the absolute right way to do it, but thats how its said around here.

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Lol... after i posted this i finished reading the last page. seems like me and starmilt are on the same page at any rate. I believe the dispute lies in "who made" not "what it is"

 

I have nothing to add but this is so bad ***.

 

Hahaha, got that right, the front tires on that thing look like meat hooks. I bet they push that plow around like it had tractor tires.

 

[quote=ranger429;8496848]There is no listing for a dually 4wd in my 79 Light Truck Facts book that Ford put out. I don't think there ever was a dually 4x4 prior to 79 built, only a 2wd version as far as I know.



The F-350 wasn't introduced till 79, this has a 77-earlier grill shell. Can you get the VIN# for this or the other truck? That would definetly clear things up. I'm guessing that both of these are home brewed.

You must mean the F350 4x4 wasn't introduced until 1979 because the F350 has been around since 1953 when Ford switched from calling the one-tons F-3's to F350's.

 

[quote=slayerman54;9051476]I can tell you that is what he meant.

 

Considering the title of this thread is 4x4 Dually you would be correct.


I still can't believe the amount of guys that think there was a 4x4 WITH DUAL REAR WHEELS on any F-series model built prior to 79, it just didn't happen.