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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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The actual difference in gains v loss are not that big and might only be discernible with before and after dyno pulls...not worth losing sleep over.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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What Harte said (as always). Harte, this forum only needs you.

I can tow 6,000+ lbs with "ease" (the automatic slows me down off the line). That's more than what my truck was rated to haul safely. So mess with your exhaust and make it sound good. Don't worry about torque. The 300 will take care of any work you need to do. If the difference is being able to pull the load or needing a larger truck depends on if you have enough backpreasure torque.. then you are using the wrong truck. You need an F-250 HD.

AB, Be sure to rev your truck up a little more this time. I'd like to hear it driving away too, if possible.

 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Definitely. My brother was revving it and it made him nervous to go too high. That's probably around 2000, I'll have to let you hear it at 4500.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Definitely. My brother was revving it and it made him nervous to go too high. That's probably around 2000, I'll have to let you hear it at 4500.
Your truck is cammed right?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Not yet, but it sure pulls all the way up there.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AbandonedBronco
Not yet, but it sure pulls all the way up there.
My truck stops revving at 4,000. I try to keep the limit to 3,500. So far I can go 60+ in third gear at 3,000+ rpm and still make power. I can rev my truck and the nose come up. I was tickled pink when I discovered this. There's no speed up there for me, but Ole' Betsy can still accelerate going up hill.

Shame you can't build an EFI like you can a carb'd. I'd like to put a cam in my truck too.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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I generally stop around 3500 or so, simply for wear and tear unless I'm wanting to see what it can do.

It's a shame about the EFI, since I know a lot of people feel kinda "stuck" with it. Fortunately, the EFI, as is, is a pretty good contender.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AbandonedBronco
I generally stop around 3500 or so, simply for wear and tear unless I'm wanting to see what it can do.

It's a shame about the EFI, since I know a lot of people feel kinda "stuck" with it. Fortunately, the EFI, as is, is a pretty good contender.
Remember the Col? I'd like to have his 300. I wonder at what RPM his 300 made the best power? From what I understand, like with any motor, the RPM power band goes up as you start modding the engine. The 300 is a low lugging motor. I wonder how it would feel like a mid to top end performer? I suppose it would be the same as having a high gear ratio.. Once you get it rolling, hold on to your !
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Bill: You over estimate my abilities.

One can get a real wedgie in their shorts ruminating over everything that can be done and the multiple choices that are available. Been there, done that...a lot. Most of it comes down to preference, wants, and the return on investment. Bragging rights are a part of the ROI equation too. With the information on this Forum and Ford Six Performance one can form a plan, work a plan, and achieve a measure of satisfactory results within reasonable expectations. Simple. Not necessarily easy though when it comes to making decisions between available options and with exhaust systems, there are a lot of options but none that are tremendously advantageous over another.

Flashy's stats are here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/3...0-i-6-a-3.html Scroll down a ways and you will find them.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Bill: One can get a real wedgie in their shorts ruminating over everything that can be done and the multiple choices that are available. Been there, done that...a lot. Most of it comes down to preference, wants, and the return on investment. Bragging rights are a part of the ROI equation too. With the information on this Forum and Ford Six Performance one can form a plan, work a plan, and achieve a measure of satisfactory results within reasonable expectations. Simple. Not necessarily easy though when it comes to making decisions between available options.
I'm repping you for this post because it's so true. I went through a phrase where I was planning on everything I was going to do to my truck. A 351 swap, 4x4 swap, blah blah blah.

After my first real encounter with wrench turning, that phrase quickly went away. I have a HUGE respect for those DIY guys who can actually tear out an engine, tranny, rear end, rebuild it, put it all back together - and it run better than factory. I'm insanely jealous of skills like that. I'm a young guy and I still fantasize, but when it comes down to it sometimes simple is better (for guys like me, anyway). I understand what you're saying completely and I'm repping you for it.

If a guy ain't careful, he'll quickly get a wedgie just thinking about all the "can do" stuff. Maybe if we all had all the money and time in the world it would be different!
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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I would have loved to done the build on mine myself but I was seriously impaired with a lack of time and place so off to the shop it went...but I do what I can on it especially tinkering with the carb which I have more to do. By the time I get off the road in mid October, AB will be ahead of me on that and I can pick his brain and experience and save myself some possible grief.

Thanks for the rep!
 
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Lol, hopefully I'll be experienced by then, although it seems I've asked you for advice on all the conclusions I've come to so far.

I also definitely agree with your previous post, one thing that's saved me thus far has been all the planning and pre-planning. When I started planning for my 4bbl conversion, I knew nothing. But perusing all of the available options over and over again, until I found one that I liked, and then researching the snot out of it, saved me tons of money on trial and error, and got me nearly where I wanted to be on the first try. I think I read post after post for about six months to a year before I dove into it, and then ended up spending about $400 on the whole process.

This said for the exhaust too. A little research to find out just what you want before you tear into it goes a long way.

Research is where its at. There's almost always someone who's tried it before you, especially on and engine that was last produced in a vehicle over a decade ago.




I've seen a couple kits that allow the 300 to rev to 6500 RPMs. I can't imagine what it would even sound like. I imagine if anyone's can do it, it would be Col. Flashman's.
 
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