I just saw today an article by the ASSOCIATED PRESS RELATED to global warming. I cant believe this article is nothing but lies..In this article released on April 19/2009 the EPA said "Rising sea levels,increased flooding and more intense heat waves and storms that come from climate change are a threat to public safety and health The agency predicted that THIS WARMING will worsen other pollution problems such as smog . The EPA concluded that our health and our planet is in danger" You asked for a verified report and this is about as solid as it gets.

 

ok ship boy, that is the same agency that in the mid 80s claimed that by 2005 florida would be under water. It is also an agency that has to defend it's existance, and is staffed by 60s radical enviromentalist that have an agenda (which is why they went to work for the EPA to begin with) This is also some of the same people that claimed that logging was killing the spotted owl, yet they have been seen nesting in a Kmart sign. Oh and lets not forget the push to use MTBE in gasoline becuase of EPA rules, and that has contaminate a lot of ground water.

Oh yes and lets not forget smog shall we. one of the major precursors to smog is O3 or ozone as you know it, so we had to do away with all ozone depleting chemicals that were "depleting the ozone" (another false pretense used to force regulations on us so that dupont could make a fortune selling things like R134) now we are supposed to believe that freon which is MUCH heavier then air was going up and depleting the ozone layer instead of actually reacting with ground level ozone and helping to keep the smog levels down. and now that same agency (and state and local agencies) actually spray ozone depleting chemicals around major cites to help reduce smog. So what was the point? MONEY you really need to wake up and smell the money. And on top of all that the science proves that we couldn't deplete the ozone layer if we tried (it's a natural chemical reaction on some of the radiation reacting with our atmosphere, Ozone is a unstable substance that degrades naturally and if the sun didn't replentish it would depleted in about 2wks)

 

Monsta you said and I quote

it is plain as day your saying that we release more through burnig fuels then is released naturally, not that we are adding to it, not that we have a small contribution your post makes a flat statement that we are releasing more then nature. May not be what you intended but it IS what you wrote.

 

So, that means if I just set at home, the beach will eventually come to me, so where's the bad part? ha ha

 

Interesting that you bring this up!

I used to subscribe to Omni magazine and I read an article back in the early 90s about the "hole in the ozone layer".
According to this article, science had shown this "hole" changing in size over years of research and that the refrigerants we used back then...one is R12....had no effect on this.
It went on to say that the patent that Dupont had on the manufacturing of R12 and R22 had run out and other companies had started to make those products under other names as we all know that "Freon" is a product name.

In so many words, this article backs up what you say! It's all about money!

 

I am glad everyone at least knows there is global warming.

 

Global warming?...............................B.S!

 

The Laurentine Ice field melted away...10-15K years ago, so where was the dreaded carbon dioxide/smog/internal combustion threat? The earth is mostly water and goes through heating and cooling periods with a difference in the thermal reaction rates between the two mediums. Also, this planet is not a static model- most of this junk science never factors that in. Think about this; on the first day that Mt. Pinatubo erupted in the late-1980s', it spewed more pollutants into the upper atmosphere than in the history of man has since the time of the industrial revolution and the eruption went on for weeks! Speaking of the 1980s', anybody remember the 'scare tactic' talk of ozone holes? Media trotted out various scientists who all claimed that the ozone layer was depleting and we're going to die due to UV exposure. Some scientists countered that dribble and called it a natural occurence, and they were right. The "holes" disappeared in the mid-1990's. By the way, why is it that the US (and sometimes Canada) are always being pointed at as the source of all this pollution in the world? M-O-N-E-Y; I dare the global warming crowd to go to Ankara,Turkey or Bangkok, Thialand or Caracas, Venezuela or any large city in China or pick your own 3rd world *****hole and take a nice deep breath at 0830hrs during rush hour. It is all a con/sales job- I am not saying I don't appreciate less pollution, but the whole approach of this "Go Green " is a deception and a lie.

 

It's the biggest, most expensive farce we've ever seen. Being pushed on us by big business to empty our wallets as fast as they can grab it up.

 

Ok first off this is the bit of the artical I read.

"
Carbon monoxide has always been present as a minor constituent of the atmosphere, chiefly as a product of volcanic activity but also from natural and man-made fires (such as forest and bushfires, burning of crop residues, and sugarcane fire-cleaning) and the burning of fossil fuels. It occurs dissolved in molten volcanic rock at high pressures in the earth's mantle. Carbon monoxide contents of volcanic gases vary from less than 0.01% to as much as 2% depending on the volcano. Because natural sources of carbon monoxide are so variable from year to year, it is extremely difficult to accurately measure natural emissions of the gas.
Carbon monoxide has an indirect radiative forcing effect by elevating concentrations of methane and tropospheric ozone through chemical reactions with other atmospheric constituents (e.g., the hydroxyl radical, OH<SUP>.</SUP>) that would otherwise destroy them. Through natural processes in the atmosphere, it is eventually oxidized to carbon dioxide. Carbon monoxide concentrations are both short-lived in the atmosphere and spatially variable"

Look at the lat paragraph it says in he last sentence "Through natural processes in the atmosphere, it is eventually oxidized to carbon dioxide. I mean after all its logical to assume the sun has an effect on it since the sun is used to neutralize most chemicals that they want neutralized by spraying them high up in the atmosphere.

Secondly on the brakes no there no deposites on them they are clean and smooth. Rotors can and WILL warp with heavy braking. That is why they have a minium thickness on the rotors. Too thin and they warp from the heat. These are brand new but god knows where napa got them and and mashing on the brakes to avoid a wreck after someone pulled out stopping a 4,000 lb car from 40 mph down to 0 is going to generate ALOT of heat. Either way no need to talk down to people like their stupid. I didnt take auto tech classes for two years including a brake and suspension class and not know anything. You dont want to belive heating up rotors from hard braking doesnt warp them go ahead thats your choice but I know they can and I have warped mine cause of that. Even if there were those deposites on there I bet they would wear off over time with braking. So far nothing but I had the wheels off to clean the back side of the rim and grease the bearings and the rotors are clean just warped. You spin them they drag in one area and slip in another.

Thirdly on the alignmet I spoke of that is well known in the science community last time I checked unless Opration Mockingbird changed that but our solar plane is lining up with the galactic plane and by 12-21-12 we should have a very great unobstructed view out of our galaxy since we would be aigned and be able to see past the stars. Now there is some speculation to what can be encountered but some theorys is that the "radiation" being put off by the black hole at our galatic center will have effects on us. If that is true then that is bad timing because our magnetic poles are slowly starting to flip and our magnetic field is weakening. Not to mention our sun is claimed by scientist supposed to be hoter in this next cycle than they orignally belived. Said that they were off by a power of 10. Didnt say exacty what that means if they mean sun will be 10 times hotter than they planned or 10 times cooler but lots of stuff is going on with the planet that man kind has no effect or control over.

Now you can idly say the pole flip is a bunch of bs like the Carbon Monoxide changing to Carbon Dioxide on its own over time but I would have to recomend you do your researh on it because science has prooved that the poles have flipped in the past and will flip again in the future.

Now I can provide links and such but wheres the fun in that. It will mean more when you do the research yourself and come to the conclusion what I said was right on the above and you wouldnt have anyone to claim is wrong other than yourself.

 

Oh really and where is this smog coming from? Cars have EGR valves to reduce combustion chamber temperature to prevent NOx formation (Oxides of Nitrogen) which is the major building block that combines with other chemicals in the atmosphere to make smog.

They have alsobeen saying risingseat levels and increased flooding and more intense heat waves and storms for years. Eventually they will get it right but last time I checked the ocean levels are no higher than they were years ago. They get their pantys in a wad cause the ocean levels are 1/4" - 3/4" higher than the previous year like that is something to worry about.

I mean hell look at April of 1912 the Titanic hit an ice berg that war part of a HUGE ice field due to a UNUSUALLY WARM Winter that year that caused more ice from the greenland glaciers to break off into the ocean. It happens the planet is alive its not going to always be the same global temperature. It changes and has long before humans were here. In the dinosaurs era theres speculation that te planet was very very humid (around 100% humidity is one number I read in a Dinosaur research book) and the temperatures were usually a stable 100*F.

Now 100*F at 70% humidity has a feel like temperature of 144*F.

Heat exhaustion Danger occurs when the heat factor is more than 105*F

My pocket reference book does not show 100% humidity at 100*F but considering 100*F at 70% is 145*F one could imagine. But either way the planet started off hot cooled and condensed into planets then as the planets got enough mass, gravity squeezed the planet into a sphere which caused a raise in internal temperature. So it shouldnt be hard to understand this planet cools and heats up on its own and has done so multiple times in the past (example the first ice age and the mini ice age)

 

The earth does wobble as it rotates, so there is a possiblity of it increasing in frequency and intensity to the point of flipping.

 

Not sure what you mean so dont take this the wrong way but I am saying the poles will flip North magnetic pole will be somewheres else and south magnetic pole be somewheres else also. Not the earth physically flipping. If that happened whoa talk about lots of death instantly cause it would happen very quickly.

But you dont want the poles to flip quickly cause that means the magma is flipping also to cause the pole shift and a quick shift will cause earth quakes as well as volcanic activity.

But in the rock though the scientist have found every so many tens of thousands of years the layers show a different magnetic trace indicating pole flips. Theory is so far that the hole in the ozone is because the magnetic field is weakening and getting ready for a flip so the ozone is directly effected. I dont know how true that is but I do know a flip is possible and approaching cause after all as you said our planet wobbles and the gravitational pulls of the sun and earth causes our obit path to be weaving back and forth almost like how Pluto and Charon orbit each other no planet is the center of their orbital path around the sun. Thats the same with earth the earth nor the moon do not stay on our path we wobble back and forth as the moon`s graivity pulls us further from the sun and closer over time.

Its hard to explain but some very good astronomy books cover it. I think the Phillip`s Star Gazing book is one that contains it with a diagram.

 

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