460 vs. 429
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I would definitely do the swap. You would be better off with a 460 than a 429. Both are much better motors than the 400 but the 460 is a lot more "torquey" than the 429 which makes it a better truck motor. TORQUE IS A TRUCKS BEST FRIEND
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Are you gonna re-build it? Do you have the 429 already? What I am getting at is that they are the same. The cranks differ and you can achieve the same end results with either engine.
Get as many cubic inches as you can afford (this is about "cubic dollars") and the horsepower will be there.
Easier to make more power with more cubic inches.
Its why we dont run 289's in these large trucks.
Stroker kits are not all that expensive, and joining the 500 inch club has its advantages.
Step on the pedal with a 500 plus cubic inch engine once and you will know whe we
500+ cubic inch owners drive with such a large smile on our faces. Sure just driving one of these trucks can put a smile on any face, but combine that with big power and we are like little kids again.
Every now and again, I fire up the 557 just to hear it run. I look for excuses to drive it to the store. Need milk? I wil be right back!!!!!!!
Stick with cubes and never be dissapointed........
I am not knocking the 429, but cubes have an advantage.
Get as many cubic inches as you can afford (this is about "cubic dollars") and the horsepower will be there.
Easier to make more power with more cubic inches.
Its why we dont run 289's in these large trucks.
Stroker kits are not all that expensive, and joining the 500 inch club has its advantages.
Step on the pedal with a 500 plus cubic inch engine once and you will know whe we
500+ cubic inch owners drive with such a large smile on our faces. Sure just driving one of these trucks can put a smile on any face, but combine that with big power and we are like little kids again.
Every now and again, I fire up the 557 just to hear it run. I look for excuses to drive it to the store. Need milk? I wil be right back!!!!!!!
Stick with cubes and never be dissapointed........
I am not knocking the 429, but cubes have an advantage.
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From: Lake Point, Utah
429/460
I've always said the same thing...nothing beats Big Cubes!!!...I'm looking at a possible 429 for my supercab...had toyed with the idea of a cummins...but it just seems like gas is a better choice...and all FORD is nice as well...A guy down the street from me has a supposed 429...and I may be able to get it cheap...I looked at it today...The block is a D1VE...So I know it's a 71 block..I didn't have my list with me for crank info..so I couldn't verify...and I couldn't find casting numbers on the heads...The one in the rocker area was there...but I couldn't see one by the valve cover...I gotta go look at it again...I may still do it if it's a 429 and cheap..I have a couple 429's already...but this is easy to get to..my others are mothballed..as well as my other 460's.
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a 429 is basically a destroked 460... or a 460 is a stroked version of a 429... either way you look at it... basically a 460 is a factory stroked mill. If you want to stroke it later it doesnt matter as they are the same block. Heads differ from car to truck but thats about it
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From: Lake Point, Utah
419....NOPE..it's a 460
Well, The 429 turned out to be a 460...71 Block...2YABC Crank...But the heads don't have any casting numbers...They have to be 73 and later tho...they run the small plugs...How much do you guys think it is worth?? It looks really clean inside...no build up whatsoever...But Crappy Heads!!
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Crank and pistons are different, and you can interchange heads depending on what dish/dome pistons you are using and what compression you want to acheave. Connecting rods are the same. I bought a Bronco that someone stuck a 429 in. I bought it just for the "Running motor" for my truck. Turned out it needed rebuilt anyway- had 2 piston skirts broken off. The #'s on my block are also D1VE, which says it was a 19(D)71(1) Lincoln(V) engine(E), according to my ford engine interchange book. Thing is they didn't put 429s in Lincolns, just 460's. It didn't have factory bearings in it anyway, so I figured someone made it into a 429 with spare parts somewhere through the years. And the rods were coded as a '68 ford engine. Car engines will have the dipstick in the timing cover, trucks in the oil pan. I wrote to Summit Racing asking which to do, 429 or 460, and they said if I have to spend the money anyway, that there is no replacement for displacement. I went with doing a 460.
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You can NOT decide engine year based on casting numbers they are revision numbers only after 1970. Ford used the D1VE block casting for BOTH the 429 and the 460s that block was also used from 1971 thru 1978 (actually mid model year 79 but for all intents nad purposes up through 78 works) for the 460s and the standard passenger car 429s in 71 it should have had the D0VE heads, 72 would have been D2VE heads and 73 and later then went with D3VE which was used until mid 80s (the E6TE heads were basically the same except for an accessory hole)
The D0VE heads had a 74cc nominal chamber, the D2VE heads are the worst of all the 385 series heads due to being 100+104cc open chamber and VERY prone to detonation, the D3VE heads went back to closed chamber and where nominally 95cc.
The difference between a 429 and a 460 is the crank and the pistons (this does NOT include the Boss, PI, CJ/SCJ motors) otherwise they use the same rods, blocks, timing covers and intakes with the exception of all 460s where 4v carbs the 429 could be either 2v or 4v (this is factory ONLY, what someone did later is totally different)
The D0VE heads had a 74cc nominal chamber, the D2VE heads are the worst of all the 385 series heads due to being 100+104cc open chamber and VERY prone to detonation, the D3VE heads went back to closed chamber and where nominally 95cc.
The difference between a 429 and a 460 is the crank and the pistons (this does NOT include the Boss, PI, CJ/SCJ motors) otherwise they use the same rods, blocks, timing covers and intakes with the exception of all 460s where 4v carbs the 429 could be either 2v or 4v (this is factory ONLY, what someone did later is totally different)
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You can NOT decide engine year based on casting numbers they are revision numbers only after 1970. passenger car 429s in 71 it should have had the D0VE heads, The D0VE heads had a 74cc nominal chamber, (this is factory ONLY, what someone did later is totally different)
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