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Sir, you are doing your homework and so are the rest of us as previously stated. This is a great thread.
Every Ford dealer has a commercial truck sales department. It's been my experience that these guys / gals know more about trucks than the mainstream sales team. It's worth a few minutes to ask the hard questions.
I think the numbers on Bsimmer3000's truck are skewed. If his Plat weighs 5600 lbs or close and he has the 7200 lb package then that leaves 1600 lbs or so. Ford already factored in a 180 lb driver so that leaves 520 lbs between 3 passengers and he still can haul 900 lbs. I would consider that very reasonable.
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Every Ford dealer has a commercial truck sales department. It's been my experience that these guys / gals know more about trucks than the mainstream sales team. It's worth a few minutes to ask the hard questions.
I think the numbers on Bsimmer3000's truck are skewed. If his Plat weighs 5600 lbs or close and he has the 7200 lb package then that leaves 1600 lbs or so. Ford already factored in a 180 lb driver so that leaves 520 lbs between 3 passengers and he still can haul 900 lbs. I would consider that very reasonable.
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They seem skewed to me as well Tim. I just got of the phone to the guy who helped me out with the problems with my truck. He's going to look into it a little more as he checked his guides and my truck is ment to have a 1480lb payload capacity from the infomation on his system. Thats the exact weight figures he has for that exact truck. He even said that it dont sound right. I will post back when he gets back to me.
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Sir, you are doing your homework and so are the rest of us as previously stated. This is a great thread.
Every Ford dealer has a commercial truck sales department. It's been my experience that these guys / gals know more about trucks than the mainstream sales team. It's worth a few minutes to ask the hard questions.
I think the numbers on Bsimmer3000's truck are skewed. If his Plat weighs 5600 lbs or close and he has the 7200 lb package then that leaves 1600 lbs or so. Ford already factored in a 180 lb driver so that leaves 520 lbs between 3 passengers and he still can haul 900 lbs. I would consider that very reasonable.
Tim
Every Ford dealer has a commercial truck sales department. It's been my experience that these guys / gals know more about trucks than the mainstream sales team. It's worth a few minutes to ask the hard questions.
I think the numbers on Bsimmer3000's truck are skewed. If his Plat weighs 5600 lbs or close and he has the 7200 lb package then that leaves 1600 lbs or so. Ford already factored in a 180 lb driver so that leaves 520 lbs between 3 passengers and he still can haul 900 lbs. I would consider that very reasonable.
Tim
I've weighed my 04 SCrew FX4 a few times and with me (@ 220lbs) and 1/4 - 1/2 tank it was just under 6,500lbs. So I have a retrax cover that seemed light when I lifted it, 10 ply tires will add a few lbs (but you should have LTs to tow anyway) rubber bed mat a few lbs but thats about all the extras, maybe a small tool kit with the basics. So now 7,200 - 6,500 = 700lbs less wife & kids, gear in box and a full tank and well max room for tounge weight is around 300lbs. The WD hitch must weigh in excess of 50lbs on its own. My max tow limit is 8,800lbs but even at a 10% tounge weight thats 880 lbs which is IMPOSSIBLE!!!! And my wife is only 118lbs...Good thing!
Ironic isn't it. These trucks handle towing great due to heavy/stiff frame etc, but thats its downfall in the legal dept.
I was thinking about the 900lbs limit. Thats 4 guys weighing 225 lbs never mind, they take their golf clubs along and they're over limit!!! Too funny.
I looked at a FX4 SCrew today with max tow and p rated 18s and the max payload sticker was something like 1,082 lbs.
So what would it be if if had the 18" LT tires?
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Thats more room than you'll have in reality.
I've weighed my 04 SCrew FX4 a few times and with me (@ 220lbs) and 1/4 - 1/2 tank it was just under 6,500lbs. So I have a retrax cover that seemed light when I lifted it, 10 ply tires will add a few lbs (but you should have LTs to tow anyway) rubber bed mat a few lbs but thats about all the extras, maybe a small tool kit with the basics. So now 7,200 - 6,500 = 700lbs less wife & kids, gear in box and a full tank and well max room for tounge weight is around 300lbs. The WD hitch must weigh in excess of 50lbs on its own. My max tow limit is 8,800lbs but even at a 10% tounge weight thats 880 lbs which is IMPOSSIBLE!!!! And my wife is only 118lbs...Good thing!
Ironic isn't it. These trucks handle towing great due to heavy/stiff frame etc, but thats its downfall in the legal dept.
I was thinking about the 900lbs limit. Thats 4 guys weighing 225 lbs never mind, they take their golf clubs along and they're over limit!!! Too funny.
I looked at a FX4 SCrew today with max tow and p rated 18s and the max payload sticker was something like 1,082 lbs.
So what would it be if if had the 18" LT tires?
I've weighed my 04 SCrew FX4 a few times and with me (@ 220lbs) and 1/4 - 1/2 tank it was just under 6,500lbs. So I have a retrax cover that seemed light when I lifted it, 10 ply tires will add a few lbs (but you should have LTs to tow anyway) rubber bed mat a few lbs but thats about all the extras, maybe a small tool kit with the basics. So now 7,200 - 6,500 = 700lbs less wife & kids, gear in box and a full tank and well max room for tounge weight is around 300lbs. The WD hitch must weigh in excess of 50lbs on its own. My max tow limit is 8,800lbs but even at a 10% tounge weight thats 880 lbs which is IMPOSSIBLE!!!! And my wife is only 118lbs...Good thing!
Ironic isn't it. These trucks handle towing great due to heavy/stiff frame etc, but thats its downfall in the legal dept.
I was thinking about the 900lbs limit. Thats 4 guys weighing 225 lbs never mind, they take their golf clubs along and they're over limit!!! Too funny.
I looked at a FX4 SCrew today with max tow and p rated 18s and the max payload sticker was something like 1,082 lbs.
So what would it be if if had the 18" LT tires?
Sounds to me ike it's still a true 1/2 ton truck and the SD has a justifiable purpose.
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If you really worried about hauling on a regular basis then buy the HD payload package. My truck in the specs list states it will haul 2730 lbs now if Ford has factored in the driver (average 200 lbs) then I'm sitting at 2930 lbs as top end. You also have to figure in what else have you put on the truck over the springs (cap/lid/boxes with tools) and subtract them out. Or the way we do it out here in the sticks, is load a ton or so of feed and see how it runs. If you are still on the road in one piece at the end of the day, the truck can handle it.
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If you really worried about hauling on a regular basis then buy the HD payload package. My truck in the specs list states it will haul 2730 lbs now if Ford has factored in the driver (average 200 lbs) then I'm sitting at 2930 lbs as top end. You also have to figure in what else have you put on the truck over the springs (cap/lid/boxes with tools) and subtract them out. Or the way we do it out here in the sticks, is load a ton or so of feed and see how it runs. If you are still on the road in one piece at the end of the day, the truck can handle it. Chris
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If you really worried about hauling on a regular basis then buy the HD payload package. My truck in the specs list states it will haul 2730 lbs now if Ford has factored in the driver (average 200 lbs) then I'm sitting at 2930 lbs as top end. You also have to figure in what else have you put on the truck over the springs (cap/lid/boxes with tools) and subtract them out. Or the way we do it out here in the sticks, is load a ton or so of feed and see how it runs. If you are still on the road in one piece at the end of the day, the truck can handle it. Chris
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Well the washington rep just gave me a call about the payload question and he said that it's had to go to Detroit to the development team i think he said. As no one really has any answers. He said that he may get a call back from them some time today. Seems like we are not the only ones baffled by this.
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Well the washington rep just gave me a call about the payload question and he said that it's had to go to Detroit to the development team i think he said. As no one really has any answers. He said that he may get a call back from them some time today. Seems like we are not the only ones baffled by this.
It's my personal opinion that Ford already anticipates that here will be passengers in the truck leaving 900lbs for payload.
When you hook up your trailer, does your rear end squat very much?
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Read the sticker again....
Let's see what the official word is. (I'm guessing the unofficial word is that "these trucks can survive a lot of overloading so long as the driver is not a complete idiot, but you didn't hear it from me"...."and don't tell the dealer you've been overloading when you come in with your grenaded transmission".)
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I have a mate who weights 310lb and that dont seem to be a rare size in the US so how they figure 180lb i have no idea. Perhaps they think i will have 4 skinny hobbit friends drive around with me??
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Whats your max payload sticker say Chris?
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To be honest the truck dont squat anywhere near what i thought it would with that trailer. I think it's due to the extra leaf the trucks with 20's have. I really aint to worried about the 900lbs but what i dont think is right is i was told by 2 dealers, Ford, Rep, paperwork and online that it would have a 1500lb payload but it has 900lb. Thats a big difference and is not a small mistake for a truck buyer. Someone somewhere in a certain department have miss qouted the figures or there is a problem with the load ratings sticker. One day i may have 5 people in my truck and if i do then i will more than likley be over my limits. Which is crazy. Thats a 180lb per person limit. Looks like my passengers may have to drive around with me naked!
I have a mate who weights 310lb and that dont seem to be a rare size in the US so how they figure 180lb i have no idea. Perhaps they think i will have 4 skinny hobbit friends drive around with me??
I have a mate who weights 310lb and that dont seem to be a rare size in the US so how they figure 180lb i have no idea. Perhaps they think i will have 4 skinny hobbit friends drive around with me??