i had diesels before and the way fuel went up it didnt pay me any more, i got the truck and of course after we started looking at fifth wheels and you are really limited as to what you can buy. there are a few with hitch weights at 1100 and under which are doable , as the weight of these trailers are at about 6900-7800 dry. just have to be careful how you load them. i looked at my buddies dodge 3/4 ton 05 and his payload is 2000 and i have seen trucks like that pulling some big fifth wheels

 

When I look through the 2009 F150 Payload summary all (except the HD payload option vehicles) start out between 1400 - 1700 lbs maximum payload (Max PAYLOAD) on the base optioned vehicle for that cab/drive/wheelbase combination from which you have to subtract anywhere from 500 - 900 lbs of options (OPT/ARC Weight) over the base. Most of these combinations if fully option loaded would only have a payload capacity from 750 - 1000 lbs.

DDL

 

I see with GM you can option out the truck you may buy (pending restructuring) and get a pretty good handle of true payload rating via this website

Domestic Weight Calculator

I wonder if Ford has a tool like this?

 

Interesting to note that SCrew 5.4L 5.5ft max payload is 1,616 lbs and then drops based on options, while the GM Crew 7,300gvw/NHT/max tow starts @ 2,000lbs and then drops based on options. So in payload they seem to have an @ 400lb advantage which doesn't sound like much unless your truck only has a 900lb payload rating in which case another 400lbs would be real nice. Ultimatly (and sorry I hate to revive this long post) pretty much anyone using there "half-ton" for almost anything is over weight on rear axle so lets just buy more liability insurance and use 'em like in the commercials!

BTW if they drop the new 6.2L heavy V8 into a platinum, what will the payload rating be in that case? 600 lbs?

 

Well i see the bloke who bought my original platinum the other day and got speaking to him. That was the one i ordered that was fully to the max and his door sticker said either 768 or 786 cant remember what way around but boy oh boy thats 120lb lower than mine. Like you say what on earth would the payload be with the 6.2l??? Also what i find funny is most of weight of the truck is over the front wheels so you could still load up that bed to way over your max payload witout to much squat happening. I see SUV's with no where near the quoted weight they can haul as payload and the hitch is almost dragging on the ground. But then again they have a lot more weight over the back wheels even before you add any payload.

 

I wonder what the "weak link in the chain is with the max payload limit. Is it the brakes, the semi-floating axle?

You can't tell me that a platinum with four 200lb passengers and an empty box is a danger on the road? More than a Chevy venture with six 200 lb passengers? Makes no sense? Must be lawyers fault.

I bet if we looked into most cars max payload rating we'd see they also have crazy low ratings.

 

It seems the Reg Cab/Scab 5.4 is about as heavy duty as the F150 gets. It still has very good payload capacity.
So basically, Your SOL for payload if You want a Screw.
It's hard to believe that the Crew Cab adds so much weight, that the payload suffers so dramatically?

 

My thoughts exactly.

The weak link can't be the brakes, or else you would have crappy tow ratings. I know all about using trailer brakes, but not all trailers have brakes, and they know that. It's not the frame. I doubt it's the rear axle. I gaurantee it is lawyers.



It doesn't make much sense.

For instance, if you go strictly by the the rules, my SCrew has a payload rating of 1256 lbs. So theoretically if me and four guys each weighing 180 lbs loaded up in my truck, that would be 900lbs, leaving 356 lbs of capacity. According to this, if we wanted to take a 450lb 4-wheeler with us, it would be safer to tow it on a trailer behind the truck than to load it in the bed. BS. I gaurantee that 95% of drivers would be more likely to have or cause an accident with the trailer behind them. Also, anyone who thinks that truck would be dangerous with the load in the bed obviously hasn't done much hauling.

 

I agree with the lawer assessment, it seems to conservative. My wife's 2005 Honday Odyessey (255hp) rating on the door is 1352. My FX4, is 1402, a 50 lb difference. I cannot image that my truck is only capable of carrying 50 lbs more but, according to the numbers, that is it.

 

Wow! A long time gone from here and this is what I came back to? I just lived this drama out with my 2008 Screw. As of 03/09, she's gone. It was a shame... I loved that King Ranch.

I built the truck (ordered) knowing I'd be about 50 pounds overweight on payload, but I could adjust tongue weight on my travel trailer so it didn't matter. The truck was supposed to have a payload of 1,680 pounds. All in all, it towed our trailer, but it wasn't an award winner. That's coming from a died-in-the-wool diesel driver.

Then, we bought a new trailer. No room to adjust tongue weight, and all storage is in the front. With one trip, our payload was well over, but until I finally saw the payload rating wasn't the book value of 1,680, but more like 1,300, I didn't realize I was closer to 500 pounds over. Then, you read the max tongue weight, can't haul anything in the truck with the trailer because you're already WAY over payload, and the trailer wags the dog. No thanks. The Supercrew left, and the sought-after F-250 was nowhere to be found. A nice F-350 has taken the place. As much as I'd love a 2009 F-150 for a daily driver (for 50,000 miles a year), it looks like I'm stuck in the 3/4 to 1 ton range for a long time just to haul my trailer. Until a 1/2 ton true four-door crewcab can payload the book values, I'll have to stay with the real trucks. And believe me, I'd still do about anything to run a new F-150 evey day, but getting rid of the memory-builder-box on wheels 'aint one of them.

 

so what should i be getting for a payload with my truck? 09 fx4 screw 6.5ft bed NOT max tow, 20 in wheels and interior options unrelated to chassis

 

oh nevermind, chart up the page didnt load for me at first

 

Ignore the chart above.

Look at the sticker on your door / door pillar. It has a yellow stripe on it. It lists the specific payload rating for your truck.

The odd thing to me is that my 2009 Expy 2wd has a gvwr of 7400 and payload of 1533. Its got almost every option including 20 inch wheels.

That gvwr is 300 lbs higher than a f150 (7100 in 2wd).

Why would an expy have more gvwr and more payload than an f150?

Go figure.

 

My 2006 Explorer EB 4x4 4.6 has 1179lbs payload and it's pretty loaded up. The GVWR is 6280lbs. I can't believe that you can get a F150 in any configuration with less payload than an Explorer.

Mike

 

The chart is correct - it just lists the range of payloads available (Maximum payload with no options to Minimum payload with all options and some other allowance for dealer installed accessories as well).

Your vehicle will be somewhere in between the two values.

Note that if you add dealer accessories (let say 50# for a bedliner, running boards, etc.) then this weight will have to be taken off what is on the door sticker for the factory payload.

DDL