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Huh...the GM 310 HP NA V6 is pretty darned close to the Ford Turbo V8. Gm has years of experience with supercharging V6's.
I don't see a problem with the Gov. and the Camaro. They already have over 11K orders for the car. It's going to sell pretty well for them.
When the Camaro SS/RS comes out with the 425 HP V8,We'll see what Ford offers in the Shelby. As for now, the Camaro beats the Mustang in HP, and handling. As it always has.
Plus the Camaro can under cut the Shelby 500 by about $10K. For the $80K Ford is asking for the Shelby 500 KR, I'd Buy a Corvette ZR1 and have 615HP, MUCH better handling, and $25+K left over.
I don't see a problem with the Gov. and the Camaro. They already have over 11K orders for the car. It's going to sell pretty well for them.
When the Camaro SS/RS comes out with the 425 HP V8,We'll see what Ford offers in the Shelby. As for now, the Camaro beats the Mustang in HP, and handling. As it always has.
Plus the Camaro can under cut the Shelby 500 by about $10K. For the $80K Ford is asking for the Shelby 500 KR, I'd Buy a Corvette ZR1 and have 615HP, MUCH better handling, and $25+K left over.
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From: Deep South Louisiana
I really don't like the new C at all. Never have been a great big fan of the Mustang either. The Challenger is my top pick and the 5.7/6.1 engines have really proven themselves too. Interior is still crap though... My list would read (1) Challenger (2) Mustang (3 - very distant) Maro
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Huh...the GM 310 HP NA V6 is pretty darned close to the Ford Turbo V8. Gm has years of experience with supercharging V6's.
I don't see a problem with the Gov. and the Camaro. They already have over 11K orders for the car. It's going to sell pretty well for them.
When the Camaro SS/RS comes out with the 425 HP V8,We'll see what Ford offers in the Shelby. As for now, the Camaro beats the Mustang in HP, and handling. As it always has.
Plus the Camaro can under cut the Shelby 500 by about $10K. For the $80K Ford is asking for the Shelby 500 KR, I'd Buy a Corvette ZR1 and have 615HP, MUCH better handling, and $25+K left over.
I don't see a problem with the Gov. and the Camaro. They already have over 11K orders for the car. It's going to sell pretty well for them.
When the Camaro SS/RS comes out with the 425 HP V8,We'll see what Ford offers in the Shelby. As for now, the Camaro beats the Mustang in HP, and handling. As it always has.
Plus the Camaro can under cut the Shelby 500 by about $10K. For the $80K Ford is asking for the Shelby 500 KR, I'd Buy a Corvette ZR1 and have 615HP, MUCH better handling, and $25+K left over.
Cargo Master
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From: Duluth, Mn.
Nah, just reporting what the auto press has said. It will out handle the Mustang. Why in the heck they went with a solid axle, is anybodies guess.
Heck, the way they touted the IRS in the Escape, You'd think they'd have learned?
Heck, the way they touted the IRS in the Escape, You'd think they'd have learned?
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Unfortunately, RWD muscle cars are not Ford's number one priority right now...
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It's not that easy to simply "include" it.
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Sure, it would of been easy to put it down on paper however making it a reality is a whole different story.
For Ford to put an IRS in the Mustang, they would have to either rework their RWD platform that they use in Australia and make it suitable for use on a Mustang and the North American market (This platform uses right-hand drive and was not designed for out market. The next generation of this platform, if Ford has not put it on hold due to their financial situation, is, from what I've heard, being designed as a global platform suitable for many different markets.) Or, they could come up with an entirely new rear suspension for the Mustang's current and aging platform.
Doing anything remotely close to this will not be cheap for Ford!
For Ford to put an IRS in the Mustang, they would have to either rework their RWD platform that they use in Australia and make it suitable for use on a Mustang and the North American market (This platform uses right-hand drive and was not designed for out market. The next generation of this platform, if Ford has not put it on hold due to their financial situation, is, from what I've heard, being designed as a global platform suitable for many different markets.) Or, they could come up with an entirely new rear suspension for the Mustang's current and aging platform.
Doing anything remotely close to this will not be cheap for Ford!
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IMHO this will end up the same way as the LS1 Camaro. Awesome drivetrain with great potential but with an ugly wrapper. Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I have a feeling the Camaro will die quickly once again. ( that's if GM stays afloat to begin with )
With that, I do think that the 2010 Mustang isn't as nice as the current design.
BRING BACK THE 1993 COBRA DAMMIT!
With that, I do think that the 2010 Mustang isn't as nice as the current design.
BRING BACK THE 1993 COBRA DAMMIT!
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From: BFE, MO
I have to agree the styling of the new camaro isn't up to par. The Challenger and the Stang have it beat in that department hands down.
I absolutly love the new Challenger just a shame that the economy isn't going to support it.
If I had to choose it would be the challenger, mustang, then the camaro which is a shame since I have always loved the camaro's.
I absolutly love the new Challenger just a shame that the economy isn't going to support it.
If I had to choose it would be the challenger, mustang, then the camaro which is a shame since I have always loved the camaro's.