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Note: The cost of gathering all the parts for this project was about the same as the kit that ITP Diesel sells.
I found the same thing, and decided to order the kit from ITP. Material cost was the same, but all the design was already figured out. It was a no brainer for me.
I've got no problem with DIY'ers, but do consider that keeping the stock CCV "adapter" in-line in the air intake system does pose some airflow restriction (notice that the stock unit is not full diameter all the way through). The aluminum tube used in the one I sell is full diameter and doesn't restrict any airflow. It's also got a custom bracket welded to it so it bolts up to the factory mounting bracket, and then it's powdercoated for a nice appearance as well. Instead of "I did mine much better", lets just agree that you did yours for less money and accomplished the same CCV function...but certainly not to the same level of completeness. At the very least, don't insult the product I sell and insinuate that I'm gouging people when you have not taken into consideration the extra work (waterjet machining, welding, powdercoating), completeness of the kit (mounting hardware, lots of hose, nuts, bolts, zip ties, instructions, packaging), etc. Just because you did yours for less money doesn't make the one I sell a bad deal.
This has been done with a piece of 4" exhaust tubing by a lot of PSD owners.
The advantage of a kit is that it's all cut and assembled to the right lengths, all hardware included and you get complete detailed instructions.
just because YOU can do it for less money doesn't mean that everyone can...and doesn't mean that we are gouging people.
Also the stock housing is plastic. In mine, the bolts in the housing broke off. Who did it? Don't know but it was broken. In your kit, it is a nut at the other end. All metal is more durable than plastics. In order to evaluate whether it is a good deal or not, I think we would need to compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges. Take the BD kit in comparison. Is it a better kit than your's? Depends. Do you consider the "drop in the ocean" emissions that important? If so, your kit isn't as good. I don't so I went with your kit and would do it again.
But that approach will mean the tube is not secure and will vibrate around.
I guess it is all a personal question. Is it good to get a kit? Well, if you don't mind fiddle faddling around trying to get it all together and actually enjoy that sort of thing, the kit isn't for you. If you think your time is worth something, get a kit that has been prepared for you. Only the individual can say.
Again, that kit of your's and Jake's approach is comparing apples to oranges. To do a proper comparison, we need to see what the criteria for choice is. If I were Al Gore, your kit would be an unacceptable approach because it vents oil fumes into the atmosphere. If I were in BFE and my stock pipe broke and I needed to get home without dusting the motor, the 4 in metal pipe would be excellent.
In that case, how does it differ from the other turbo other than the name?
Ive seen this mentioned on a bunch of forums and your company is catching some very negative pr over this from what Ive seen. If its a lie and its not the same turbo Id love to know enough about the stuff to correct people if they are wrong.
Originally Posted by crowz
Sorry my post was cut off, its pouring rain here and the sat dish I guess hicup'd.
Anyways the part it left out was that if the turbos are different Id love to know what the differences are so I could correct people if they are spreading false information about your turbo.
Wow I thought you were gonna tell me to... well no need to curse on here but its obvious you are a stand up guy. Please let me know if there is anything I can ever do for ya.
Mech/Crowz, I have told you they are different, I would not come on here and tell you something that is not true. I am not going to get into detail and tell you what improvements secrets we are doing to the BD Turbo Thrusters but will insure you they are different.
Dave, with your turbo, can you use a modded pedistool? As for a PDR, they are no longer warrantying thiers with a modded ped. "Due to oil starvation" -PDR-Dave
Mech/Crowz, I have told you they are different, I would not come on here and tell you something that is not true. I am not going to get into detail and tell you what improvements secrets we are doing to the BD Turbo Thrusters but will insure you they are different.
Dave, with your turbo, can you use a modded pedistool? As for a PDR, they are no longer warrantying thiers with a modded ped. "Due to oil starvation" -PDR-Dave
We have no warranty restrictions on modded pedistools but if a failed turbo gets returned and oil starvation is the cause of failure I think it is fair to say there would be no warranty.
Originally Posted by mech2161
LOL yeh ok!
Why even ask me if you are not going to believe my answer? Are you indicating that I am being dishonest Mech?
It is NOT a PDR Turbo please check your facts, I will say it is similar to the turbo that PDR sells, but it is NOT the same!
Dave,
Please, dont dig a hole deeper. Some of us know for fact that you went to the supplier and bought it up. Nothing is changed other then the part number.
It is the PDR Super GTP... And thats fine, but dont expect to sell may of them on these forums, I will make sure that everyone knows where to get the real Super GTP.
Please, dont dig a hole deeper. Some of us know for fact that you went to the supplier and bought it up. Nothing is changed other then the part number.
It is the PDR Super GTP... And thats fine, but dont expect to sell may of them on these forums, I will make sure that everyone knows where to get the real Super GTP.
Now who is throwing stones CSIPSD?
Do you really think I would come on here and say they are identical if the only thing that has changed was the part number? If and when I do decide to reveal the differnces it will only be after you have made the hole you are digging larger.
For your information PDR is not the manufacture of that kit either, out of curiousity do you know who PDR is; and who they are owened by? I do and I also know where the previous owner of that place works now, do you? Please get your facts straight.
We will be patient while you do your research and reply.
We have no warranty restrictions on modded pedistools but if a failed turbo gets returned and oil starvation is the cause of failure I think it is fair to say there would be no warranty.
Why even ask me if you are not going to believe my answer? Are you indicating that I am being dishonest Mech?
Well.... with the storm you stirred up here and the accusations flying on other forums why would I believe other wise.
Well.... with the storm you stirred up here and the accusations flying on other forums why would I believe other wise.
Kevin,
I have apologized for my actions regarding the CCV kit post which has nothing to do with this turbo kit. I regret my post as well as the storm I have stirred up. I made my bed and am lying in it. Rather than just hiding, I have come on here to face the music but not once have I been dishonest. I only hope you can be as respectful to then members here when you realize your accusations are false.
and the accusations flying on other forums why would I believe other wise.
That he did and deserves what he gets for it. No question in my mind.
That is not linked to what he did though. IMO, he has apologized for it and I, for one, am willing to take him at his word and give him the benefit of the doubt. Now, that said, if he does it again, hang him high. You can only apologize ONE time and get the benefit of the doubt in my mind. 2nd time and I will not accept any apology.
That said, what accusation and what forum? Lets go take a look at it. There are 2 sides to a story, lets hear the other side and see what he said about it before we pass judgment.
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