Diesel up again!!
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From: Robbinsville NJ
Originally Posted by vincewood30
Ok rmichman these are the numbers I came up with. Let me know if you agree or disagree with me on this.
Driving 1,500 personal miles a month (work estimates, day to day errands, ect)
Diesel - 1,500 Miles divided by 12 Mpg = 125 Gallons of fuel X 3.65 a gallon = $456.25 Average oil change cost $105 divided by 3 months $35 a month to oil changes for a total of $491.25 a month.
Camry 1,500 Miles divided by 27 Mpg = 55.5 Gallons of gas @ 3.10 a gallon equals $172.22 for gas + $8 a month towards oil changes + $300 a month for payment and insurance for a total of $480.22
Hopefully I'm pretty right on my calculations but I'll actually be saving $11.22 a month. Geez, what will I do with all that extra $$$? lol
I know you're just trying to help me out and I really do appreciate it but it all comes down to the bottom line numbers right?
Driving 1,500 personal miles a month (work estimates, day to day errands, ect)
Diesel - 1,500 Miles divided by 12 Mpg = 125 Gallons of fuel X 3.65 a gallon = $456.25 Average oil change cost $105 divided by 3 months $35 a month to oil changes for a total of $491.25 a month.
Camry 1,500 Miles divided by 27 Mpg = 55.5 Gallons of gas @ 3.10 a gallon equals $172.22 for gas + $8 a month towards oil changes + $300 a month for payment and insurance for a total of $480.22
Hopefully I'm pretty right on my calculations but I'll actually be saving $11.22 a month. Geez, what will I do with all that extra $$$? lol
I know you're just trying to help me out and I really do appreciate it but it all comes down to the bottom line numbers right?
I'm totally serious when I say I here people talking about swapping vehicles for mileage and not include the vehicle cost.
To me personally, it's not worth breaking even with another vehicle. Then again it would be nice to drive something new.
Good luck to you.
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From: Bucks county PA
Originally Posted by PupnDuck
I wonder how high diesel & gas have to go before people start saying "you know, I don't REALLY have to go there today"?
When fuel was 2 bucks a gallon, everybody thought that the world would end if it ever hit 3 bucks. Now that it's in the 3's, 4 dollars a gallon sounds scary. When it hits 4 dollars a gallon (probably this summer) I guess $5 a gallon will be scary. My personal prediction - when it costs 50% of your weekly take home pay to fill your tank, the s**t will hit the fan.
I'm driving my wife's Honda CRV a lot more lately.
When fuel was 2 bucks a gallon, everybody thought that the world would end if it ever hit 3 bucks. Now that it's in the 3's, 4 dollars a gallon sounds scary. When it hits 4 dollars a gallon (probably this summer) I guess $5 a gallon will be scary. My personal prediction - when it costs 50% of your weekly take home pay to fill your tank, the s**t will hit the fan.
I'm driving my wife's Honda CRV a lot more lately.
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From: Staten Island, NY
Originally Posted by MexicanScaper987
Haha, funny you mention that. I remember when $1.79 was "gold plated" for premium. It sucks, I agree. Ijust filled up tonight. Cheapest station in town is a mere $3.49. They have been that way for about 4 days so I wanted to get in there before they are where the other stations are at $3.59-$3.75.
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From: MI -- farmboy
I fill up every day, sometimes twice. All I got to say is this sucks. I need a heavy truck for work and try to drive my gas miser van when I can (13/17 mpg). Still debating on the whole gas truck or diesel truck.
www.bloomberg.com/energy down to 98 a bbl.
www.bloomberg.com/energy down to 98 a bbl.
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The only time "getting another vehicle for fuel economy" makes sense is if you're making payments on the gas-guzzler. In that case, parking/selling the gas-guzzler CAN make sense.
If the gas-guzzler is PAID FOR, then in NO circumstances can you save money by buying a more fuel-efficient car. Even if you pay cash for it.
The $300 (or more) payment buys a LOT of fuel for the gas guzzler.
-blaine
If the gas-guzzler is PAID FOR, then in NO circumstances can you save money by buying a more fuel-efficient car. Even if you pay cash for it.
The $300 (or more) payment buys a LOT of fuel for the gas guzzler.
-blaine
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From: MI -- farmboy
i dont know about that statement. I spend an average of $360 a week (or $1440 /mo) for gas. If I can drive an used econobox for 1/3 the time, I would save about $118 a month. ( I been there and done that, had a 93 Dodge Spirit when I had my stroker)
here is my math-
$150 /mo payment $50 /mo ins (used econobox)
457 gallons /mo with guzzler = ~4000 miles a month ($1440)
so driving an econobox for 1/3 the miles.....
my F250 - 303 gallons /mo @3.15 =~ 2667 miles at a cost of about $954
in an econobox at 1333 miles at best of 25mpg, would use 53 gallons, or $168
leaving me with a fuel savings of $318 a month with a total of $1122 in gas used.
At $200 a month for econobox costs, leaves $118 a month for maintenance, license plates, car wash, lunch, etc.
For me, the math seems to work, but I think I may be an extreme case. For most people, the 1000 miles or so they put on in a month, I dont see how the math could work for them. Also, I dont buy new, everything I own it used, usually 2 years old when I get it. I let the first guy take the huge depreciation whack, then I stand in line for mine.
here is my math-
$150 /mo payment $50 /mo ins (used econobox)
457 gallons /mo with guzzler = ~4000 miles a month ($1440)
so driving an econobox for 1/3 the miles.....
my F250 - 303 gallons /mo @3.15 =~ 2667 miles at a cost of about $954
in an econobox at 1333 miles at best of 25mpg, would use 53 gallons, or $168
leaving me with a fuel savings of $318 a month with a total of $1122 in gas used.
At $200 a month for econobox costs, leaves $118 a month for maintenance, license plates, car wash, lunch, etc.
For me, the math seems to work, but I think I may be an extreme case. For most people, the 1000 miles or so they put on in a month, I dont see how the math could work for them. Also, I dont buy new, everything I own it used, usually 2 years old when I get it. I let the first guy take the huge depreciation whack, then I stand in line for mine.
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
Originally Posted by jeffdoerr
At $200 a month for econobox costs, leaves $118 a month for maintenance, license plates, car wash, lunch, etc.
For me, the math seems to work, but I think I may be an extreme case. For most people, the 1000 miles or so they put on in a month, I dont see how the math could work for them. Also, I dont buy new, everything I own it used, usually 2 years old when I get it. I let the first guy take the huge depreciation whack, then I stand in line for mine.
For me, the math seems to work, but I think I may be an extreme case. For most people, the 1000 miles or so they put on in a month, I dont see how the math could work for them. Also, I dont buy new, everything I own it used, usually 2 years old when I get it. I let the first guy take the huge depreciation whack, then I stand in line for mine.
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From: None of your business
Originally Posted by PupnDuck
Actually, in 2005 (I have an '05 F350) Ford offered the E350 ambulance cut-away with the 6.0 PSD. It was rated at 235 HP and 440 lb-ft of torque.
The E-series 6.0 is only rated at 235HP and 440ft/lbs. I imagine it has something to do with heat and how tight that engine is crammed in there. The F-series got the full power 6.0. I now drive 2 04 F450 ambulances with the full power 6.0s. (Also POS)
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From: MI -- farmboy
"here is my math-
$150 /mo payment $50 /mo ins (used econobox)"
$150 per month for the car payment, $50 per month for insurance = $200 per month
My dodge spirit had 44,000 miles on it and I bought it for $1500. My actual insurance bill was $35 a month.
$150 /mo payment $50 /mo ins (used econobox)"
$150 per month for the car payment, $50 per month for insurance = $200 per month
My dodge spirit had 44,000 miles on it and I bought it for $1500. My actual insurance bill was $35 a month.
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
Originally Posted by jeffdoerr
My dodge spirit had 44,000 miles on it and I bought it for $1500.
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Originally Posted by PupnDuck
I wonder how high diesel & gas have to go before people start saying "you know, I don't REALLY have to go there today"?
When fuel was 2 bucks a gallon, everybody thought that the world would end if it ever hit 3 bucks. Now that it's in the 3's, 4 dollars a gallon sounds scary. When it hits 4 dollars a gallon (probably this summer) I guess $5 a gallon will be scary. My personal prediction - when it costs 50% of your weekly take home pay to fill your tank, the s**t will hit the fan.
I'm driving my wife's Honda CRV a lot more lately.
When fuel was 2 bucks a gallon, everybody thought that the world would end if it ever hit 3 bucks. Now that it's in the 3's, 4 dollars a gallon sounds scary. When it hits 4 dollars a gallon (probably this summer) I guess $5 a gallon will be scary. My personal prediction - when it costs 50% of your weekly take home pay to fill your tank, the s**t will hit the fan.
I'm driving my wife's Honda CRV a lot more lately.
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