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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Almost seems like a conspiracy!! Get out your tin foil hats fellas
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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I don`t think it a conspiracy, just a sign of the changing and much more complex times. It`s certainly harder for the auto makers to meet new vehicles manufacturering standards that`s bound to be reflected both in the vehicle price and repair.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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And in the end it will affect sales bigtime.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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another truth there prep. if they persue the rumors of taking pre '85 vehicles off the road they'll be making it harder to survive period. must be nice to be rolling in a 'burban or something with your 6 digit sallary, dictating how the common folk must live... talking 'bout the government, not preppy...
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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How does this sound to you guys --- new vehicles, especially the new diesels, burn MORE fuel to LOWER their emissions!!! Seems like a weird concept to me!

I know some guys that have brand new diesels out there, duramaxes, dodges, and fords. The one operator traded his 06 duramax for an 08 - he told me he used to get 18-23 with his old one nad his new one is, well, the best he ever got was 12 so far and he said I don't check anymore because I don't want to know. The guy with the new ford says the best is like 12-15, then he proceeds to say you don't buy a new truck for good fuel mileage!! The dodges are around the same, on guy told me he got 17mpg on the highway but only 12 operating. Myself my 07 6.0L gets from 12-18 with the best being 20 on a good long highway cruise. So Iam convinced that the new trucks ARE harder on diesel and for now I'll keep mine. And actually, most guys I talk to say the same thing - their old ones seemed to be better on fuel.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 96sherm
must be nice to be rolling in a 'burban or something with your 6 digit sallary, dictating how the common folk must live... talking 'bout the government, not preppy...
Hey now, I drive a PSD!!!


Ive heard also of guys say the same thing about the newer trucks getting poor mileage. I told one dealer what I get empty with my 7.3 and he just said keep it lol.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Yeah i think they get crappy mileage now cause of all this emmisions crap
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:56 AM
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heck, the '81 chebby i had for a brief and dull moment would get 18mpg...carburated pig, well worn out, but it didn't have any emissions crap on there!! my '96 would get a sweet 24 on the highway @ 100km/h and 20 easy in the city when driven nicely.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Now take the emissions off of that 300 I6......
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Yeah i think they get crappy mileage now cause of all this emmisions crap
You hit the nail on the head! Also, there has been a trend for quite a few years to go to higher revving smaller displacement engines - both gas and diesel. I remember when this happened with farm tractors in the mid to later 1980's. The 875 Versatile made 280 hp from the 14l (855 cu in) and the replacement 876 used the 10l(in the low 600 cu in range). In this case it was only displacement as both were 2100 rpm engines.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Now take the emissions off of that 300 I6......
i did... it was fun, but i never had it long enough after to see any gains. it was a bit more perky though!!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Actually what I meant was build that 6er with no emissions at all with new technology.

Ive heard if you actually remove some emission stuff from a newer engine, it runs alot worse.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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o i getcha. emissions stuff like what?? and how new? my screw is running awesome, the 300 did too cept it sounded like a john deer...
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Thats awesome it sounded like a JD!

Emissions pumps crap like that, I read it in the 87-96 forums before.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Yeah a JD hmm cool yeah i bet if you took off emissions junk it just may run crap due to it being to run with it on there
 
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