The 460 in your older trucks had the worst set of heads and intake Ford ever made. The where so small to help meet emissions. Ford motorsport did sell a kit to help the 460. It came with a better cam lifters,timing set,injectors. It did help some. I owned a Ford Speed Shop in Shorewood Ill. I did a few of these trucks. I did a 1989 F 450 SD with a 9 ft utility box with 5 spd. trans. It had 482 gears. The owner pulled a 32 ft trailer with tons of forms on it. The kit helped but still not enough. Next step? I put a set of 1970 460 heads on it and a Performer RPM intake ,we welded in bungs for the injectors and made an adapter for the injector bonet. I put 1 3/4 headers on it wit a clean 2 1/2 exhaust on it. It was night and day. It had tons of power at all speeds and at any rpm. The owner liked it so much he wanted Four wheel drive put under it. I put a Dana 70 under the front and added an older style transfer case. It was a bear!!! It liked the gas ! I do own a 1999 F350 V10 with 4.30 gears and 35 BFG tires. it runs great and tows great. But my1982 Ford Van E 350 4x4 460 stroker with lots of goods would blow the doors off any thing on the road. It was pushing around 680 HP at 513 cu.in. 1050 dominator and a roller cam , lots od goods inside and a built C 6 trans and 513 gears and 39 inch MT tires. But to get back to the V10 what realy helps that engine work so good is the long rod technoligy. In racing we have been using it for 20 years. You run a very short deck height to get the rod very close to the top of the bore. Its more efficent and has more time to burn the fuel while the pistons is at top dead center. I still build engines for customers. I like building big 351w engines 427 thru 466 cu.in. They make power well above 500 HP under 6000 RPM and they like injection. A 460 with a stroker kit aroung 600 cu.in. with custom injection built like the 5.0 system will make KILLER power at any RPM, just ask Jack Rouse he has done this ! I want a stroker kit for my V10 around 500 plus cu.in. would be great!

 

Umm, with a BLOWER it ws close, no blower the GMs were still emberrasing the fords. But im really a GM man in a ford truck, so im biased the opposite way of eeryone else on here.

I'm just not sure why ford needed to use a blower with all the modern upgrades such as 4 valves and DOHC and whatnot. Even then its questionable.

 

Reviewing the stats from the article, considering the GM had less gear and 400 lbs of extra weight, id say it would clearly be at the top in my opinion. Mind you i own a v-10 ford.

 

I Have Driven,built And Loved The 460 All My Driving Life. The V-10 Is A Smoother More Sofisticated Higher Revving Engine But When It Comes To Load Totin' Big Pistons Still Do The Job. P.s. What's With The Buy Japanese Blurb ?

 

[QUOTE=1] But im really a GM man in a ford truck

I am just curious, why aren't you in a GM truck? If you are a "GM man" you would think that you would be driving a GM product. Their truck not up to the task? I am not bashing, just does not make sense.

 

[QUOTE=HuntsDucks70]I had to jump in, I'm a GM guy through and through, grew up GM, all of the family vehicles are GM, my race car is GM built and GM powered....but my personal family caars are Ford as well as my businesses work trucks. I grew tired of always working on my GM trucks on the weekends, neighbor talked me into trying a ford and I've been sold ever since. funny thing is, almost every other contractor I've met is in the same state of mind...we use our trucks as tools, and when the tool goes down, your losing money. knock on wood, but that is why I drive fords even though I'm a gm guy...cuz they flat out get the job done with little to no fuss with proper maintenance!!! All my buddies with new or near new gm trucks spend about as much time sitting in the dealership lobby, driving rentals/loaners as they do actually driving their trucks...and these are just transportation vehicles, not used for anything but point a-b LOL!!!

 

CHILDREN!

Thanks for taking a somewhat decent thread from 3 to 6 pages in a matter of days.

Arguing about GM of all things.

STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD from now on - I'm removing your posts...

 

[QUOTE=HuntsDucks70]I think i mentioned it earlier in this thread but the ONLY reason im in the ford is the solid front axle. I want to lift the truck and put big rubber under it and with my experience with my bronco and the TTB i vowed to never lift a non solid front axle truck again. Ive always had a thing for the looks of a clean all black excursion too. So, here we are.

 

Yeah that was me, im sorry. I got carried away, i still like my V10, very smooootttttthhhhhh.

 

I can only relate to trucks and towing.That is what we use a truck for...period. We have a fellow camper in our local group that pulls a 12K + fifth wheel with a 460. I pull a bit heaver fifth wheel(not much) with a 05 V-10.His MPG is worse than mine but we pull together a lot and he has no problem. His 460 is stock.I am not sure but I think his 460 is the last year they made them. he also uses the truck for towing only and is a weekender and vacationer camper.

 

IHI - hey thanx for the honest opinion about the chevy vrs ford issue.
when i rent a car i always ask for a ford - but most of the time i got stuck with a Gm.

i have no complaints - i just wouldnt own one.
i got my 1st ford in early 1977 - 1969 Mercury Cyclone GT 351w 4b motor that was changed from an auto to a truck 3sp on the floor (??have no idea??)

ive been hooked on them since. the last new one i bought new was a 1999 Mustang GT.
now i see what i want, wait a couple years - find the one im looking for, usually with a blown motor or trans & fix it up the way i want.

no car payment & no over priced mechanic.

works for me.

sorry got off topic.

 

Now this has been an interesting thread. I have owned several 460's in my years. I towed with one for ten years and refused to buy a V10 for towing. For my 460 I used to say '...from my cold dead hands."

Then one day the truck just wore out (not the power train, just everything else around it).
I found a gorgeous green E350 Club Wagon in the paper with a V10 and a 4.10 axle. I bought it and fell head over heels in love with it.

Then I decided to hook my trailer up to it and see how it would do. Nevermind I blew the radiator in the middle of the Nevada desert, I was still very impressed with it.

Then I bought I 2003 V10 F250...I cannot compare this workhorse with my old venerable 460. I am no longer mad at Ford for dumping my beloved 460. I'll take a V10 any day.

Now, I have a question. Some others in this thread have compared the V10 to the 460 giving preference to the V10 so long as the 460 is stock, suggesting the 460 beefs up well. I agree..but here is the question. How does the V10 fare when beefed? Has anyone done any serious internal beefing to improve on its pulling power?

The reason why I ask is I see that CompCams is now offering custom grinds for the V10 Triton. I know Manly is making stuff for the 5.4 like beefier rods and deep skirt pistons. What, if anything can custom grinds do for towing? RV grinds? I'd love to know. "cuz it seems to me that with OHC's changing cams should be comparatively easy and quick.

 

This topic has been brought up before. I was looking for a stroker kit for the V10, but alas one doesn't exist. I don't think anyone here has done a rebuild on a V10. Basically all you got is .030 or .040 over pistons. And in my opinion 6 or 7 cubic inches aren't going to amount to squat. I know that we are all waiting for someone to bite the bullet and buy a set of those comp cams. As far as I know nobody has yet.

 

V10 cams mmmm?

 

Is it even possible to stroke the V10 ? I thought it was a long stroker already and not enough room left to stroke it more.