Some people are ignorant to the facts Dohc. Sfas ride rough but I love em anyways. Coils help make it more tolerable.

 

I guess I'm must be missing something - at what point did 3/4 ton trucks with diesel motors become the off-road pick-up of choice?

 

I'd agree...........you are missing something.

NOBODY said they were the pick up of CHOICE for off roading.


But between the 3/4+ ton trucks, one does seem to be better suited.

 

it all depends on what type of off-roading a person does. for a pre-runner, probably no good as its also no good for the mountain rock crawls jeeps do. but for what i do, which is rough roads, mild trails, and lots of back country type driving, its perfect, the diesel gets great mpg, lots of power, and has lots of space to store things in it. like the turtle trucks that was in some 4x4 magazine a few years ago.

 

Now I'm missing something. What makes a diesel pickup have more storage space than a gas pickup?

There aren't alot of offroad situations in which having an extra 500/600lbs of engine weight biased over the front axle is a positive thing.

 

i was making the storge space with comparison to someone who would off-road a jeep or some other small vehical instead of a full size.

i been offroading diesels forever, the extra wieght has never even been noticed, and in reality, its not enough to notice.

as i said before, it all depends what type of off-roading a person does.

but diesels have proven thier worth all over the world, not to many gassers in the military or hovering around the african wilderness.

 

I think I have discussed the fact that the conditions I deal with are half a world removed (quite literally) from the ones the majority of the people reading this have...

But down here there is no better vehicle for off-roading than a 3/4 ton diesel (or a large diesel 4x4 wagon)... this is exemplified in the sales, the fact that the SuperDuties only competion here (Toyota and Nissan) don't even offer diesels!!!
Even the average 4x4 wagons sold here are well over 50% diesels...
For example, I went 4x4ing a bit over a month ago with over 30 vehicles... and this was in rocky, tight country - and only 2 of the vehicles were gassers.

I am not trying to turn this into a gas vs. diesel war, but here in the land of expensive gas, where fuel stations are literally 600miles apart (and even then they may not stock gas), trying to Ford a river... and killing your spark, breaking down and being towed to the closest mechanic by another 4x4'er only to find the only gas engine he has in his 47years of life is started with a hand crank (don't laugh, I have seen it before).
About the only advantage to gassers out here is that you don't have to bleed them when they run out of fuel...

I completely understand a diesel powered Super Duty would be impractical on tight rocky trails - but out here in the wide expanse... there ain't a better vehicle in the world for it.

 

All I said was:

"There aren't alot of offroad situations in which having an extra 500/600lbs of engine weight biased over the front axle is a positive thing."

And it's true. You can think what you want.

 

that comment is why here in the rugged cascade mountains you see more than anything 4 banger power mini trucks. Strightup, the lighter you are and the less power you have the less parts you break.
As far as the truck review goes i think its perty practical. I dont agree with the wieght system they uesed but the GM does have a long legacy of deisel engine and HD tranny experiecne behind it. Bear in mind the engine was co-designed by Isuzu (the OLDEST truck manuafacturer on the planet) and then theres Allision building the trannys. And why would Ford use Allys if they werent the best? Honestly after having driven alot of GM and Ford trcuks the only complaint i have about the GMs is the rattly interiors and how GM offten has software issues on its first run trucks...

 

"...Isuzu (the OLDEST truck manuafacturer on the planet)..."

That's the first I've heard or read of that! Not that it really matters, but care to supply a source or some type of proof!?!

 

History of Izuzu

Izuzu and Mercedes-Benz started manufacturing diesel motors the same year (1936), although Mercedes held the patent.

 

Could you name 3?