Replacing kingpins...
Replacing kingpins...
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Replacing kingpins...
How do I remove the sleevs of the kingpins, never done this before so I don't want mess it up, and how to insert the new ones? I know of using a hydralic jack and a socket that fits over the sleev, but is there another way, besides the machine shop at the corner?
Truck is completely taken apart, frame has been sandblasted and painted, now its time to do the suspension.
Thanks in advance.
1970 F100
00 Dodge Ram
96 Impala SS
63 Impala
Truck is completely taken apart, frame has been sandblasted and painted, now its time to do the suspension.
Thanks in advance.
1970 F100
00 Dodge Ram
96 Impala SS
63 Impala
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Replacing kingpins...
Take the I Beams with spindles attached along with a new set of king pins and I Beam rubber bushings down to the local machine shop. Have the old pressed out and the new installed.
William in Atlanta
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Now, back in the fifties (I'm dating myself!) when most cars as well as trucks still used kingpins, we just went to "Monkey-Wards" and picked up a kingpin set which included new bushings and a combination reamer/driver. We drove out the old bushings, drove in the new ones with the perfectly sized driver and then reamed the bushings with the reamer. Worked perfectly every time. There must still be drivers and reamers available, albeit, they probably ain't cheap any more! This is not a "tuff" job and I'm sure you can find the tools and do it yourself. Whether or not the tools will cost more than having a shop do it I don't know. BTW, the bushing driver is a "step" design; the bulk of the driver fits inside of the bushing with just enuf lip to fit inside the spindle bore and catch the bushing. If you've got a barn full of "stuff" lying around like I do, you could probably find something to use for the driver. I guess you could (as you said) use a socket in a "pinch".
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Replacing kingpins...
Take the I Beams with spindles attached along with a new set of king pins and I Beam poly bushings down to the local machine shop. Have the old pressed out and the new installed.
Tomorrow you'll still have your hair, your religeon, all the skin on your knuckles and you'll thank Wm in Atl and
Dan in Charleston
Tomorrow you'll still have your hair, your religeon, all the skin on your knuckles and you'll thank Wm in Atl and
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Well, it seems like nobody likes to mess with this things, I'm gonna give it a try and hopefully it won't take me long to realize that I need to go to a shop. Thanks for the info guys.
1970 F100
00 Dodge Ram
96 Impala SS
63 Impala
Well, it seems like nobody likes to mess with this things, I'm gonna give it a try and hopefully it won't take me long to realize that I need to go to a shop. Thanks for the info guys.
1970 F100
00 Dodge Ram
96 Impala SS
63 Impala
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yeah, man. if it takes more than five minutes to beat out the kingpin, GIVE UP!!! Don't be like me and try for several hours. Another tip: propane torches on these kingpins is like trying to move a dumptruck by blowing on it. Good luck!
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The nay sayers aren't in AridZona, I guess. ;)
It was a snap to take apart and put back together, in my case.
Especially as they are saying, taking the whole dangged axle out. YMMV!
I said that for others because I know-ed this already...
"Truck is completely taken apart, frame has been sandblasted and painted,
now its time to do the suspension." -Tony
I didn't ream mine (no reamer, too dangged expensive at the time) I took
the knukles to the machine shop and instead of charging $10 labor each
side they only charged me $10 total because...
"the knuckles were so clean we didn't have to clean them first". :)
I cleaned them up nice and pretty because I wanted them to spend time
doing a good job on the reaming and not spend it cleaning the suckers.
That was $10 to drive out and insert new bearings and ream them to size.
I'd've rather done it myself and will look into the right sized reamer again
next time. BTW, my fancy hydraulic press looks like a bottle jack and the
underside of a double-wide trailer house. LOL :)
Alvin in AZ
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it has been rumoured that henry ford used to browse different junkyards to find out which component lasted the longest, and it was the kingpins, so they decided to go cheap after that and save the company money.
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/fordpart.asp
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/fordpart.asp
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it has been rumoured that henry ford used to browse different junkyards to
find out which component lasted the longest, and it was the kingpins, so they
decided to go cheap after that and save the company money.
snopes.com: Henry Ford Junkyard Parts
find out which component lasted the longest, and it was the kingpins, so they
decided to go cheap after that and save the company money.
snopes.com: Henry Ford Junkyard Parts
My father-in-law knew just about everybody because he talked to everybody.
One day he talked to a guy collecting Ford door locks at a wrecking yard and
the story is that he was trying to figure out a way to cheapen the manufacturing
of the product by one dollar. That's was big bucks to Ford Motor Company,
and would share some of that saved money with him for his ideas. ;) His goal
was to improve them more than anything else tho, he was very specific
about that, it was like a game to do both real good.
Alvin in AZ
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