Trans shudder info request
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The Taurus should have either a AX4S or AX4N tranny. They've had other AX series trannies since they were introduced in 1986, most with problems.
All cars have a weak link. We just got rid of the spouse's 02 Honda Accord with 32k miles. They had a history of tranny issues too.
All cars have a weak link. We just got rid of the spouse's 02 Honda Accord with 32k miles. They had a history of tranny issues too.
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Took my 2001 Escape to dealer that it was purchasaed from to make an appointment for a flush/refill/reflash. They told me that they did not do them anymore. They said of the ones that they had done that the transmission failed within two weeks. I am assuming they put the wrong fluid in. Now were do I go to have the service done. Tranny shuddering worse and worse.
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An oil change place will do a power flush for around $90 assuming you haven't gone over 60k miles between flushes. Or you can do it yourself. The tranny holds 10 quarts and pulling the plug dumps 3.9 quarts. Dump/fill/run 4 or 5 times and you'll be close to 100% fluid replacement. I dump my tranny fluid every other oil change to keep it fresh. It only costs about $5 for a gallon of name brand Mercon.
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The CD4E doesn't have what is considered a replaceable filter per Ford. I doubt the $180 would be a complete teardown to replace the filter. More like the oil change power flush price times 2...per the book.
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Mercon replaces Mercon V - Offical Tech Service Bulletin
This article supersedes TSB 01-15-7 to update the vehicle application chart.
ISSUE:
MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid is being replaced by MERCON® V as a service fluid.
ACTION:
Beginning immediately all automatic transmission / transaxle applications requiring MERCON® can now be serviced using MERCON® V or MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid or dual usage fluids labeled MERCON® / MERCON® V. After July 1, 2007, MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid will no longer be manufactured, therefore, availability of this fluid will only continue for however long it takes to deplete what remains in inventory.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Service automatic transmissions requiring MERCON® with MERCON® V or MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid or dual usage fluids labeled MERCON® / MERCON® V
NOTE : PCM reprogramming only applies to Escapes Assembed in Mexico.
ISSUE:
MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid is being replaced by MERCON® V as a service fluid.
ACTION:
Beginning immediately all automatic transmission / transaxle applications requiring MERCON® can now be serviced using MERCON® V or MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid or dual usage fluids labeled MERCON® / MERCON® V. After July 1, 2007, MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid will no longer be manufactured, therefore, availability of this fluid will only continue for however long it takes to deplete what remains in inventory.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Service automatic transmissions requiring MERCON® with MERCON® V or MERCON® Automatic Transmission Fluid or dual usage fluids labeled MERCON® / MERCON® V
NOTE : PCM reprogramming only applies to Escapes Assembed in Mexico.
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Tranny concerns
For a while was worried about what I read on here about these trannies but I've got to say so far so good. Knock on wood, it is american made. I have an 02 v6 2wd xlt with a 127,000 mi on it and no tranny problems to date, to make matters more impressive I have done major amounts of towing with it in the dead middle of summer up some intense grades. The tent trailer I tow is rather large and weighs 2300lbs empty. I routinely flush the trans at the ford dealer and yes they switched over to mercon V several changes back, and I have noticed no change in performance to date. I have had several petroluem lubricant experts who claim to be in the industry tell me that there is no problem using Mercon 5, that it supercedes the other. Well maybe I have been lucky but I pony up the doe for a tranny flush every year sometime twice a year because I am so paranoid about a 3500.00 rebuild others have had to do. I am sure driving habits have a role in it too. We bought ours new and showed it lots of love since day one.
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Ok, question... I have a 05' Escape with the 2.3L I4 and Automatic 2-wheel drive. How can I tell what transmission (CD4E) mine has in it. I am thinking about flushing the Trans but want to make sure that I replace the fluids with the correct one. The Trans-Dip Stick states Mercon V. I have read in other forums that Ford stopped using Mercon V due to problems in the CD4E trans and reverted back to using Mercon. Can any one verify this and tell me where I can verify what trans model I have?
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First, I am an average guy who doesn't know much about transmissions.
I have an '03 Escape XLT with 95,000 miles.
On July 19, 2006 I reported to the dealer that there was a shudder occasionally in the transmission shifting. They did the standard flush the tranny fluid and reprogrammed the PCM. In fact, the pprwrk says:
"found harsh shifts. ran OASIS found ssm reprogram PCM to latest calibration"
Under "labor", it says:
"flush transmission and torque converter"
Under "parts", it says:
"Qty 16 - FP-number XT-5-BM - Description: Mercon"
The reason for the post, is that now that the warranty has run out on the powertrain, it is doing it again. This time the same dealership says that the torque converter must be replaced and possibly the entire tranny!
I find it hard to believe that, while still under warranty, all they needed to do was a PCM reprogram and flush the fluid, but then when the warranty ran out I need a rebuild?!?!
What can I check/do to determine if I am just unlucky or getting screwed?
Thanks.
I have an '03 Escape XLT with 95,000 miles.
On July 19, 2006 I reported to the dealer that there was a shudder occasionally in the transmission shifting. They did the standard flush the tranny fluid and reprogrammed the PCM. In fact, the pprwrk says:
"found harsh shifts. ran OASIS found ssm reprogram PCM to latest calibration"
Under "labor", it says:
"flush transmission and torque converter"
Under "parts", it says:
"Qty 16 - FP-number XT-5-BM - Description: Mercon"
The reason for the post, is that now that the warranty has run out on the powertrain, it is doing it again. This time the same dealership says that the torque converter must be replaced and possibly the entire tranny!
I find it hard to believe that, while still under warranty, all they needed to do was a PCM reprogram and flush the fluid, but then when the warranty ran out I need a rebuild?!?!
What can I check/do to determine if I am just unlucky or getting screwed?
Thanks.
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The Taurus should have either a AX4S or AX4N tranny. They've had other AX series trannies since they were introduced in 1986, most with problems.
All cars have a weak link. We just got rid of the spouse's 02 Honda Accord with 32k miles. They had a history of tranny issues too.
All cars have a weak link. We just got rid of the spouse's 02 Honda Accord with 32k miles. They had a history of tranny issues too.
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I hate to re-post, but does anyone have an idea or opinion on this similar situation?
Thanks!
Thanks!
First, I am an average guy who doesn't know much about transmissions.
I have an '03 Escape XLT with 95,000 miles.
On July 19, 2006 I reported to the dealer that there was a shudder occasionally in the transmission shifting. They did the standard flush the tranny fluid and reprogrammed the PCM. In fact, the pprwrk says:
"found harsh shifts. ran OASIS found ssm reprogram PCM to latest calibration"
Under "labor", it says:
"flush transmission and torque converter"
Under "parts", it says:
"Qty 16 - FP-number XT-5-BM - Description: Mercon"
The reason for the post, is that now that the warranty has run out on the powertrain, it is doing it again. This time the same dealership says that the torque converter must be replaced and possibly the entire tranny!
I find it hard to believe that, while still under warranty, all they needed to do was a PCM reprogram and flush the fluid, but then when the warranty ran out I need a rebuild?!?!
What can I check/do to determine if I am just unlucky or getting screwed?
Thanks.
I have an '03 Escape XLT with 95,000 miles.
On July 19, 2006 I reported to the dealer that there was a shudder occasionally in the transmission shifting. They did the standard flush the tranny fluid and reprogrammed the PCM. In fact, the pprwrk says:
"found harsh shifts. ran OASIS found ssm reprogram PCM to latest calibration"
Under "labor", it says:
"flush transmission and torque converter"
Under "parts", it says:
"Qty 16 - FP-number XT-5-BM - Description: Mercon"
The reason for the post, is that now that the warranty has run out on the powertrain, it is doing it again. This time the same dealership says that the torque converter must be replaced and possibly the entire tranny!
I find it hard to believe that, while still under warranty, all they needed to do was a PCM reprogram and flush the fluid, but then when the warranty ran out I need a rebuild?!?!
What can I check/do to determine if I am just unlucky or getting screwed?
Thanks.
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