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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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I read of a guy who was carrying sand bags and dented the bed in his f350. I think the sheetmetal has gotten a lot thinner. Have you guys done the tailgate test lately. Go shut each trucks tailgates and tell me which one has the most metal in it. Might suprise you.
Out of the owners I have spoken with that owned 6.0s. 2 had no problems.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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I have an 04 F-250 CC, and my rear seats fold both ways, up and the back folds down. Also, I can sleep in the backseat of my truck. It is very comfy for me.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Logical Heritic
I read of a guy who was carrying sand bags and dented the bed in his f350. I think the sheetmetal has gotten a lot thinner. Have you guys done the tailgate test lately. Go shut each trucks tailgates and tell me which one has the most metal in it. Might suprise you.
Out of the owners I have spoken with that owned 6.0s. 2 had no problems.
LOL... That reminds me of when I was showing off my new 05 F350 PSD to my dad. While I was telling my dad how stout the truck is, my 5yr old nephew was flexing the floor of the bed by running around on it.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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I would like everyone, or anyone that has test driven both, to describe what they liked about each, and why.
I test drove
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:05 AM
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"I test drove"
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by superdutyspv
I have an 04 F-250 CC, and my rear seats fold both ways, up and the back folds down. Also, I can sleep in the backseat of my truck. It is very comfy for me.
Hmmm, you must be a tad shorter than the rest of us, the seats are comfy but a bit too short for most adults except in a pinch. My 12 year old tried sleeping in the back seat a couple of weeks ago but he finally gave up because he couldn't stretch out so he climbed out into the back and slept on a Truck-bedz with me.

Re: the tailgate test; are you just checking the weight of the gate? They all seemed pretty similar when I test drove the Mega cab, but perhap the Chevy was a bit lighter. Not sure what any of that proves.

Re: test driving both; been there done that.
Exterior: Ford by landslide
Interior: push, a matter of preference
Power train: For gas go Ford, for diesel it's hard not to go Cummins
Features: push, but I still LOVE the new rotating Dodge mirrors.
Ride: Ford, the Dodge just didn't seem as 'brick' solid.
Ford Lover stays with Ford Super Duty! (no surprise)
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Sorry about that post. I lost my internet connection in the middle of the sentence and didn't try to sign back on. I'm not sure why the post went through

I test drove both the Ford and Dodge 1 ton duallies (2005 models) and I don't think anyone can learn much from a short test drive other than what their personal preferences in creature comforts might be. I wanted a truck with the capacity to safely handle a huge camper while towing a loaded 4 horse trailer. Now if the dealers had let me load my comper and hook up to the horse trailer and tow it over a high mountain pass I might have reached a conclusion to pass on to the next person but as it was I wasn't convinced that either of the 1 tons were up to the task and I couldn't afford the sticker on a F450 so my personal preference was to rebuild my 1991 F350 into a truck that can get the job done. You get a soft ride by weakening the springs and you get economy by using thin sheet metal to lower the weight.

The only thing to be learned by comparing opinions is that different people have different opinions.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Logical Heretic wrote:
I read of a guy who was carrying sand bags and dented the bed in his f350. I think the sheetmetal has gotten a lot thinner.
There was a thread in another forum a while back where a person asked how much a pickup bed weighed. I was surprised at how many different weights were posted for a full size pickup bed and since I had the bed off my 1991 truck it went on the scale at over 400 lbs. Some of the posts listed the weight at under 300 lbs which gives a person an idea of what has happened to the sheet metal.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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We are talking about sheet metal and the strength and durability of a component. All things being equal the heavier one will have more metal and will more difficult to bend. The chevy tailgate seems to be made out of plastic and the dodge tailgate was noticably heavier than the ford. The salesman made sure to point that out as he had one of each on the lot.
If Im shopping for electronics and it comes down to two similarly priced units. I buy the heavier unit. Durable components often weigh more, i.e. motors and such.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Logical Heritic
Durable components often weigh more, i.e. motors and such.
Well I beg to differ on that case. It really depends what it is made out of, and how it is designed.
And then why does a SD weigh more than a Ram or a GM/Chevy
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Well I beg to differ on that case. It really depends what it is made out of, and how it is designed.
And then why does a SD weigh more than a Ram or a GM/Chevy
The superduty drivetrain seems to be bigger, and the truck is a little bigger overall. But I will agree that my superduty's sheet metal might as well be aluminum foil for how strong it is. My old 92 had stronger metal. I know this because my quad bent the front of the bed on my superduty from strapping it down, wher is didn't move the bed on my old 92.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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I don't know about bed strength.
Almost all Australian F-series, including mine, have aftermarket trays fitted to them.
(what you would call a cross between a flatbed and a stake) - even if they weren't a bed delete options to begin with.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...&albumid=13547
Mine also had a tipper fitted to it.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Anyone ever see the Toby Keith commercial, where two guys in a tavern are arguing over which truck is better? one has a dodge and the other a chevy. Than Toby comes in with cut out cross sections of the frames. The ford section is twice as thick and big as the other two. Thats where alot of the weight must come from!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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I have a CrewCab V10 and a CrewCab diesel 4x4. I don't haul anything except 3-4 times a year I haul two jet skis to a lake that is about 20 miles away.

Most of the time, I use it to carry my dirt bikes to the track and back. Do I need this truck to carry the bikes? no. Why? cuz I feel like it and I can afford it.

Do you feel that you are better than me just because you use it as a work truck? Do you look down on people that doesn't use it "as a pickup truck"?

You are funny (sarcastically). You are right about "only in America". Only in America where you and I can do whatever we want to do.


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That Is Because Most People Who Buy Them Will Never Use It As A Pickup Truck, Mainly As A Commuter Or Grocery Getter...only In America!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Exactly! I did own a 96 Dodge Ram 1500. I sold it to my father in law, and he loves it. There is nothing wrong with it now that it's at 150k miles. I also don't see anything wrong with the interior.

It's funny to see so many people can be so brand loyal. Ford thanks you! They will thank you while they take your money to the bank laughing.






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I happen to like the Ram Mega Cab. I'll bet this truck will be a big hit with crew cab customers. Dodge's quality is very good in comparison to Ford and GM, IMO, and I know it's hard for the blind "blue bloods" to understand or even admit to it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Super Dutys. Heck, I own one! But before my Ford I had a '94 Ram 1500 4x4. It was an excellent truck with no problems. Sold it with 142K on the clock and the current owner loves it too. But anyway, I think the Megacab will be successful. The updated interior is refined and fresh, and the revised nose gives the new Ram a menacing stance. Now Chevy has to design a truck that looks scared!
 
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