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Post-Tribune staff and wire reports
In a land where Lexus has all but supplanted Lincoln as the gold standard for automotive luxury and imports top passenger-car sales lists, U.S. automakers have pointed to pickups — especially full-size trucks — as the last bastion of American-made dominance.
Domestic truck manufacturers still rule the roost, with almost 70 percent of the compact pickup sales market and about 95 percent of the full-size market in 2002.
But Japanese automakers are stepping up their assault on the U.S. pickup market, having jumped onto the radar screen in fast order.
The Toyota Tundra, a full-size pickup that made its debut in 1999, has averaged more than 100,000 unit sales in the United States in each of the last three years, while its compact Tacoma has averaged more than 150,000 unit sales during the same period, 2000 to 2002.
Wayne Clark of Valparaiso is helping the foreign surge.
Formerly a Ford pickup owner, Clark now owns two Toyota Tundras — a 2000 model and an equipped-to-the-max 2002 model.
“Toyota I think is a better truck than domestic trucks. It’s better riding and it’s better longterm,” Clark said. “My cousin had a ’93 Camry wagon and he had it for eight years and he never had any trouble at all.
“I wanted to go with something that has a little more class and something that’s more dependable. The Ford I’ve had had a lot of brake problems,” Clark said.
He drives his 2000 model back and forth to work. But his 2002 truck goes with him everywhere else. Clark has driven 30,000 miles on that truck in just 13 months.
His $37,000 2002 model has leather seats, heated seats, a six-CD disc player, a cover that rolls across the truck bed and a footrail.
While Clark may be helping fuel the nationwide trend, Louis Gonzalez, sales manager at Team Toyota in Highland, would like to see sales increase in Northwest Indiana.
“It’s kind of hard when you’re up against Ford, Chevy,” Gonzalez said. “The Ford and Chevy people are set in their ways.”
Meanwhile, Nissan, already a player in compact pickups with its Frontier, carried nearly 10 percent of sales in the segment last year with 75,207 units. Later this year, it will launch the second Japanese-made full-size pickup to be sold in America — the massive Titan, a muscular model aimed squarely at the big trucks made by Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge.
According to Darren Newton, general sales manager for Nielsen Nissan in Chesterton, the manufacturer hopes to capture 14 percent of the market with the Titan.
“If (Nissan) gets to 14 percent, that’ll be a pretty good market share, considering the loyalty a lot of people have to Ford and Chevy,” he said.
Indeed, analysts point out that Japanese automakers might find cracking the pickup market much tougher than what they have accomplished in the U.S. passenger-car segment over the past 20 years. Consumer studies conducted since 2000 have indicated that as many as three of every four buyers of U.S.-made pickups are likely to buy American again on their next truck purchase.
Newton, who has sold Chevys, thought that number could be even higher.
“When someone came in for a pickup, you could pretty much bet that their last five trucks were Chevys,” he said.
Sales figures amassed by CNW Marketing Research, a firm in Bandon, Ore., that tracks the auto industry, show America’s Big Three — General Motors, Ford and Chrysler Group — with significant leads in the pickup segment. Last year, combined sales of Tacoma and Frontier came to 227,167 units, barely edging the total amassed by the compact Ford Ranger alone - 226,094 units.
Among full-size pickups, the Big Three hold an even bigger edge. In 2002, CNW said Toyota sold 99,333 new Tundras — far below the Ford F-Series, 813,701; the Chevrolet Silverado-C/K pickups, 652,646; the Dodge Ram, 396,934; and the GMC Sierra, 202,045.
Yet, with Nissan’s Titan on the way and Toyota making direct challenges to the top-selling Ford F-Series, it’s obvious these companies are digging into their positions. Art Spinella, president of CNW Marketing Research, speculated that the Tundra will continue to do well among what he called “appearance buyers,” a subset of the full-size pickup segment, or buyers who like the Tundra’s style.
Newton, on the other hand, thinks the attraction lends itself to customers doing their homework.
“The people who buy (from Nielsen), 80 percent of them have stellar credit, and most are Internet people who’ve already know the invoice price before they even get to me,” he said. “They’re shopping Honda and Acura, and they have the information already laid out.”
While Toyota and Nissan have a lot of ground to cover to even approach sales figures now being put up by America’s truck manufacturers, industry analysts agree that the battle deserves watching. They said Toyota has approached the full-size pickup segment much the same way it approached the building of its passenger cars in the 1970s and 1980s, employing exhaustive consumer-preference surveys and examining virtually every part of competitors’ trucks. Current numbers tell the tale of Japan’s progress. Preliminary U.S. auto sales figures for the first half of 2003 pegged market share for all Japanese motor-vehicle brands at an all-time high of 28.5 percent.
“It would be foolish to discount Toyota and Nissan in the (full-size pickup) segment just because the Americans have such a big lead in sales right now,” analyst Brewster said. “Detroit took them too lightly in other segments 20 years ago, and now Japan has taken a big bite out of them.”
Post-Tribune correspondent Michelle L. Quinn contributed to this article.
Top 10 pickups
With year-to-date sales, percentage change, and August year-over-year figures.
1. Ford F-Series
545,582 -2.2% YTD
August 2003 73,698
August 2002 78,566
2. Chevrolet Silverado
466,322+6.5%YTD
August 200372,214
August 200257,479
3. Dodge Ram
302,480+13.0% YTD
August 200343,824
August 200240,440
4. Ford Ranger
151,285-8.2% YTD
August 200323,438
August 200223,501
5. GMC Sierra
131,014-2.5% YTD
August 200319,693
August 200220,620
6. Chevrolet S-10
106,699-3.4% YTD
August 200316,514
August 200213,778
7. Toyota Tacoma
105,797-0.1% YTD
August 200317,657
August 200217,034
8. Dodge Dakota
78,446 -17.0% YTD
August 20039,382
August 200214,659
9. Toyota Tundra
68,306 -3.7% YTD
August 200311,485
August 200211,154
10. Chevrolet Avalanche
62,631 -0.2% YTD
August 20039,912
August 200211,555
In a land where Lexus has all but supplanted Lincoln as the gold standard for automotive luxury and imports top passenger-car sales lists, U.S. automakers have pointed to pickups — especially full-size trucks — as the last bastion of American-made dominance.
Domestic truck manufacturers still rule the roost, with almost 70 percent of the compact pickup sales market and about 95 percent of the full-size market in 2002.
But Japanese automakers are stepping up their assault on the U.S. pickup market, having jumped onto the radar screen in fast order.
The Toyota Tundra, a full-size pickup that made its debut in 1999, has averaged more than 100,000 unit sales in the United States in each of the last three years, while its compact Tacoma has averaged more than 150,000 unit sales during the same period, 2000 to 2002.
Wayne Clark of Valparaiso is helping the foreign surge.
Formerly a Ford pickup owner, Clark now owns two Toyota Tundras — a 2000 model and an equipped-to-the-max 2002 model.
“Toyota I think is a better truck than domestic trucks. It’s better riding and it’s better longterm,” Clark said. “My cousin had a ’93 Camry wagon and he had it for eight years and he never had any trouble at all.
“I wanted to go with something that has a little more class and something that’s more dependable. The Ford I’ve had had a lot of brake problems,” Clark said.
He drives his 2000 model back and forth to work. But his 2002 truck goes with him everywhere else. Clark has driven 30,000 miles on that truck in just 13 months.
His $37,000 2002 model has leather seats, heated seats, a six-CD disc player, a cover that rolls across the truck bed and a footrail.
While Clark may be helping fuel the nationwide trend, Louis Gonzalez, sales manager at Team Toyota in Highland, would like to see sales increase in Northwest Indiana.
“It’s kind of hard when you’re up against Ford, Chevy,” Gonzalez said. “The Ford and Chevy people are set in their ways.”
Meanwhile, Nissan, already a player in compact pickups with its Frontier, carried nearly 10 percent of sales in the segment last year with 75,207 units. Later this year, it will launch the second Japanese-made full-size pickup to be sold in America — the massive Titan, a muscular model aimed squarely at the big trucks made by Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge.
According to Darren Newton, general sales manager for Nielsen Nissan in Chesterton, the manufacturer hopes to capture 14 percent of the market with the Titan.
“If (Nissan) gets to 14 percent, that’ll be a pretty good market share, considering the loyalty a lot of people have to Ford and Chevy,” he said.
Indeed, analysts point out that Japanese automakers might find cracking the pickup market much tougher than what they have accomplished in the U.S. passenger-car segment over the past 20 years. Consumer studies conducted since 2000 have indicated that as many as three of every four buyers of U.S.-made pickups are likely to buy American again on their next truck purchase.
Newton, who has sold Chevys, thought that number could be even higher.
“When someone came in for a pickup, you could pretty much bet that their last five trucks were Chevys,” he said.
Sales figures amassed by CNW Marketing Research, a firm in Bandon, Ore., that tracks the auto industry, show America’s Big Three — General Motors, Ford and Chrysler Group — with significant leads in the pickup segment. Last year, combined sales of Tacoma and Frontier came to 227,167 units, barely edging the total amassed by the compact Ford Ranger alone - 226,094 units.
Among full-size pickups, the Big Three hold an even bigger edge. In 2002, CNW said Toyota sold 99,333 new Tundras — far below the Ford F-Series, 813,701; the Chevrolet Silverado-C/K pickups, 652,646; the Dodge Ram, 396,934; and the GMC Sierra, 202,045.
Yet, with Nissan’s Titan on the way and Toyota making direct challenges to the top-selling Ford F-Series, it’s obvious these companies are digging into their positions. Art Spinella, president of CNW Marketing Research, speculated that the Tundra will continue to do well among what he called “appearance buyers,” a subset of the full-size pickup segment, or buyers who like the Tundra’s style.
Newton, on the other hand, thinks the attraction lends itself to customers doing their homework.
“The people who buy (from Nielsen), 80 percent of them have stellar credit, and most are Internet people who’ve already know the invoice price before they even get to me,” he said. “They’re shopping Honda and Acura, and they have the information already laid out.”
While Toyota and Nissan have a lot of ground to cover to even approach sales figures now being put up by America’s truck manufacturers, industry analysts agree that the battle deserves watching. They said Toyota has approached the full-size pickup segment much the same way it approached the building of its passenger cars in the 1970s and 1980s, employing exhaustive consumer-preference surveys and examining virtually every part of competitors’ trucks. Current numbers tell the tale of Japan’s progress. Preliminary U.S. auto sales figures for the first half of 2003 pegged market share for all Japanese motor-vehicle brands at an all-time high of 28.5 percent.
“It would be foolish to discount Toyota and Nissan in the (full-size pickup) segment just because the Americans have such a big lead in sales right now,” analyst Brewster said. “Detroit took them too lightly in other segments 20 years ago, and now Japan has taken a big bite out of them.”
Post-Tribune correspondent Michelle L. Quinn contributed to this article.
Top 10 pickups
With year-to-date sales, percentage change, and August year-over-year figures.
1. Ford F-Series
545,582 -2.2% YTD
August 2003 73,698
August 2002 78,566
2. Chevrolet Silverado
466,322+6.5%YTD
August 200372,214
August 200257,479
3. Dodge Ram
302,480+13.0% YTD
August 200343,824
August 200240,440
4. Ford Ranger
151,285-8.2% YTD
August 200323,438
August 200223,501
5. GMC Sierra
131,014-2.5% YTD
August 200319,693
August 200220,620
6. Chevrolet S-10
106,699-3.4% YTD
August 200316,514
August 200213,778
7. Toyota Tacoma
105,797-0.1% YTD
August 200317,657
August 200217,034
8. Dodge Dakota
78,446 -17.0% YTD
August 20039,382
August 200214,659
9. Toyota Tundra
68,306 -3.7% YTD
August 200311,485
August 200211,154
10. Chevrolet Avalanche
62,631 -0.2% YTD
August 20039,912
August 200211,555
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Re: GM Trucks #1 Selling....(Add silverado and siera)
Originally posted by fordeater
Post-Tribune staff and wire reports
In a land where Lexus has all but supplanted Lincoln as the gold standard for automotive luxury and imports top passenger-car sales lists, U.S. automakers have pointed to pickups — especially full-size trucks — as the last bastion of American-made dominance.
Domestic truck manufacturers still rule the roost, with almost 70 percent of the compact pickup sales market and about 95 percent of the full-size market in 2002.
But Japanese automakers are stepping up their assault on the U.S. pickup market, having jumped onto the radar screen in fast order.
The Toyota Tundra, a full-size pickup that made its debut in 1999, has averaged more than 100,000 unit sales in the United States in each of the last three years, while its compact Tacoma has averaged more than 150,000 unit sales during the same period, 2000 to 2002.
Wayne Clark of Valparaiso is helping the foreign surge.
Formerly a Ford pickup owner, Clark now owns two Toyota Tundras — a 2000 model and an equipped-to-the-max 2002 model.
“Toyota I think is a better truck than domestic trucks. It’s better riding and it’s better longterm,” Clark said. “My cousin had a ’93 Camry wagon and he had it for eight years and he never had any trouble at all.
“I wanted to go with something that has a little more class and something that’s more dependable. The Ford I’ve had had a lot of brake problems,” Clark said.
He drives his 2000 model back and forth to work. But his 2002 truck goes with him everywhere else. Clark has driven 30,000 miles on that truck in just 13 months.
His $37,000 2002 model has leather seats, heated seats, a six-CD disc player, a cover that rolls across the truck bed and a footrail.
While Clark may be helping fuel the nationwide trend, Louis Gonzalez, sales manager at Team Toyota in Highland, would like to see sales increase in Northwest Indiana.
“It’s kind of hard when you’re up against Ford, Chevy,” Gonzalez said. “The Ford and Chevy people are set in their ways.”
Meanwhile, Nissan, already a player in compact pickups with its Frontier, carried nearly 10 percent of sales in the segment last year with 75,207 units. Later this year, it will launch the second Japanese-made full-size pickup to be sold in America — the massive Titan, a muscular model aimed squarely at the big trucks made by Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge.
According to Darren Newton, general sales manager for Nielsen Nissan in Chesterton, the manufacturer hopes to capture 14 percent of the market with the Titan.
“If (Nissan) gets to 14 percent, that’ll be a pretty good market share, considering the loyalty a lot of people have to Ford and Chevy,” he said.
Indeed, analysts point out that Japanese automakers might find cracking the pickup market much tougher than what they have accomplished in the U.S. passenger-car segment over the past 20 years. Consumer studies conducted since 2000 have indicated that as many as three of every four buyers of U.S.-made pickups are likely to buy American again on their next truck purchase.
Newton, who has sold Chevys, thought that number could be even higher.
“When someone came in for a pickup, you could pretty much bet that their last five trucks were Chevys,” he said.
Sales figures amassed by CNW Marketing Research, a firm in Bandon, Ore., that tracks the auto industry, show America’s Big Three — General Motors, Ford and Chrysler Group — with significant leads in the pickup segment. Last year, combined sales of Tacoma and Frontier came to 227,167 units, barely edging the total amassed by the compact Ford Ranger alone - 226,094 units.
Among full-size pickups, the Big Three hold an even bigger edge. In 2002, CNW said Toyota sold 99,333 new Tundras — far below the Ford F-Series, 813,701; the Chevrolet Silverado-C/K pickups, 652,646; the Dodge Ram, 396,934; and the GMC Sierra, 202,045.
Yet, with Nissan’s Titan on the way and Toyota making direct challenges to the top-selling Ford F-Series, it’s obvious these companies are digging into their positions. Art Spinella, president of CNW Marketing Research, speculated that the Tundra will continue to do well among what he called “appearance buyers,” a subset of the full-size pickup segment, or buyers who like the Tundra’s style.
Newton, on the other hand, thinks the attraction lends itself to customers doing their homework.
“The people who buy (from Nielsen), 80 percent of them have stellar credit, and most are Internet people who’ve already know the invoice price before they even get to me,” he said. “They’re shopping Honda and Acura, and they have the information already laid out.”
While Toyota and Nissan have a lot of ground to cover to even approach sales figures now being put up by America’s truck manufacturers, industry analysts agree that the battle deserves watching. They said Toyota has approached the full-size pickup segment much the same way it approached the building of its passenger cars in the 1970s and 1980s, employing exhaustive consumer-preference surveys and examining virtually every part of competitors’ trucks. Current numbers tell the tale of Japan’s progress. Preliminary U.S. auto sales figures for the first half of 2003 pegged market share for all Japanese motor-vehicle brands at an all-time high of 28.5 percent.
“It would be foolish to discount Toyota and Nissan in the (full-size pickup) segment just because the Americans have such a big lead in sales right now,” analyst Brewster said. “Detroit took them too lightly in other segments 20 years ago, and now Japan has taken a big bite out of them.”
Post-Tribune correspondent Michelle L. Quinn contributed to this article.
Top 10 pickups
With year-to-date sales, percentage change, and August year-over-year figures.
1. Ford F-Series
545,582 -2.2% YTD
August 2003 73,698
August 2002 78,566
2. Chevrolet Silverado
466,322+6.5%YTD
August 200372,214
August 200257,479
3. Dodge Ram
302,480+13.0% YTD
August 200343,824
August 200240,440
4. Ford Ranger
151,285-8.2% YTD
August 200323,438
August 200223,501
5. GMC Sierra
131,014-2.5% YTD
August 200319,693
August 200220,620
6. Chevrolet S-10
106,699-3.4% YTD
August 200316,514
August 200213,778
7. Toyota Tacoma
105,797-0.1% YTD
August 200317,657
August 200217,034
8. Dodge Dakota
78,446 -17.0% YTD
August 20039,382
August 200214,659
9. Toyota Tundra
68,306 -3.7% YTD
August 200311,485
August 200211,154
10. Chevrolet Avalanche
62,631 -0.2% YTD
August 20039,912
August 200211,555
Post-Tribune staff and wire reports
In a land where Lexus has all but supplanted Lincoln as the gold standard for automotive luxury and imports top passenger-car sales lists, U.S. automakers have pointed to pickups — especially full-size trucks — as the last bastion of American-made dominance.
Domestic truck manufacturers still rule the roost, with almost 70 percent of the compact pickup sales market and about 95 percent of the full-size market in 2002.
But Japanese automakers are stepping up their assault on the U.S. pickup market, having jumped onto the radar screen in fast order.
The Toyota Tundra, a full-size pickup that made its debut in 1999, has averaged more than 100,000 unit sales in the United States in each of the last three years, while its compact Tacoma has averaged more than 150,000 unit sales during the same period, 2000 to 2002.
Wayne Clark of Valparaiso is helping the foreign surge.
Formerly a Ford pickup owner, Clark now owns two Toyota Tundras — a 2000 model and an equipped-to-the-max 2002 model.
“Toyota I think is a better truck than domestic trucks. It’s better riding and it’s better longterm,” Clark said. “My cousin had a ’93 Camry wagon and he had it for eight years and he never had any trouble at all.
“I wanted to go with something that has a little more class and something that’s more dependable. The Ford I’ve had had a lot of brake problems,” Clark said.
He drives his 2000 model back and forth to work. But his 2002 truck goes with him everywhere else. Clark has driven 30,000 miles on that truck in just 13 months.
His $37,000 2002 model has leather seats, heated seats, a six-CD disc player, a cover that rolls across the truck bed and a footrail.
While Clark may be helping fuel the nationwide trend, Louis Gonzalez, sales manager at Team Toyota in Highland, would like to see sales increase in Northwest Indiana.
“It’s kind of hard when you’re up against Ford, Chevy,” Gonzalez said. “The Ford and Chevy people are set in their ways.”
Meanwhile, Nissan, already a player in compact pickups with its Frontier, carried nearly 10 percent of sales in the segment last year with 75,207 units. Later this year, it will launch the second Japanese-made full-size pickup to be sold in America — the massive Titan, a muscular model aimed squarely at the big trucks made by Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge.
According to Darren Newton, general sales manager for Nielsen Nissan in Chesterton, the manufacturer hopes to capture 14 percent of the market with the Titan.
“If (Nissan) gets to 14 percent, that’ll be a pretty good market share, considering the loyalty a lot of people have to Ford and Chevy,” he said.
Indeed, analysts point out that Japanese automakers might find cracking the pickup market much tougher than what they have accomplished in the U.S. passenger-car segment over the past 20 years. Consumer studies conducted since 2000 have indicated that as many as three of every four buyers of U.S.-made pickups are likely to buy American again on their next truck purchase.
Newton, who has sold Chevys, thought that number could be even higher.
“When someone came in for a pickup, you could pretty much bet that their last five trucks were Chevys,” he said.
Sales figures amassed by CNW Marketing Research, a firm in Bandon, Ore., that tracks the auto industry, show America’s Big Three — General Motors, Ford and Chrysler Group — with significant leads in the pickup segment. Last year, combined sales of Tacoma and Frontier came to 227,167 units, barely edging the total amassed by the compact Ford Ranger alone - 226,094 units.
Among full-size pickups, the Big Three hold an even bigger edge. In 2002, CNW said Toyota sold 99,333 new Tundras — far below the Ford F-Series, 813,701; the Chevrolet Silverado-C/K pickups, 652,646; the Dodge Ram, 396,934; and the GMC Sierra, 202,045.
Yet, with Nissan’s Titan on the way and Toyota making direct challenges to the top-selling Ford F-Series, it’s obvious these companies are digging into their positions. Art Spinella, president of CNW Marketing Research, speculated that the Tundra will continue to do well among what he called “appearance buyers,” a subset of the full-size pickup segment, or buyers who like the Tundra’s style.
Newton, on the other hand, thinks the attraction lends itself to customers doing their homework.
“The people who buy (from Nielsen), 80 percent of them have stellar credit, and most are Internet people who’ve already know the invoice price before they even get to me,” he said. “They’re shopping Honda and Acura, and they have the information already laid out.”
While Toyota and Nissan have a lot of ground to cover to even approach sales figures now being put up by America’s truck manufacturers, industry analysts agree that the battle deserves watching. They said Toyota has approached the full-size pickup segment much the same way it approached the building of its passenger cars in the 1970s and 1980s, employing exhaustive consumer-preference surveys and examining virtually every part of competitors’ trucks. Current numbers tell the tale of Japan’s progress. Preliminary U.S. auto sales figures for the first half of 2003 pegged market share for all Japanese motor-vehicle brands at an all-time high of 28.5 percent.
“It would be foolish to discount Toyota and Nissan in the (full-size pickup) segment just because the Americans have such a big lead in sales right now,” analyst Brewster said. “Detroit took them too lightly in other segments 20 years ago, and now Japan has taken a big bite out of them.”
Post-Tribune correspondent Michelle L. Quinn contributed to this article.
Top 10 pickups
With year-to-date sales, percentage change, and August year-over-year figures.
1. Ford F-Series
545,582 -2.2% YTD
August 2003 73,698
August 2002 78,566
2. Chevrolet Silverado
466,322+6.5%YTD
August 200372,214
August 200257,479
3. Dodge Ram
302,480+13.0% YTD
August 200343,824
August 200240,440
4. Ford Ranger
151,285-8.2% YTD
August 200323,438
August 200223,501
5. GMC Sierra
131,014-2.5% YTD
August 200319,693
August 200220,620
6. Chevrolet S-10
106,699-3.4% YTD
August 200316,514
August 200213,778
7. Toyota Tacoma
105,797-0.1% YTD
August 200317,657
August 200217,034
8. Dodge Dakota
78,446 -17.0% YTD
August 20039,382
August 200214,659
9. Toyota Tundra
68,306 -3.7% YTD
August 200311,485
August 200211,154
10. Chevrolet Avalanche
62,631 -0.2% YTD
August 20039,912
August 200211,555
GM has to sell trucks under 2 different names to compete with Ford. That seems rather lame.
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Originally posted by fordeater
mw95250 gm is one name...gm also has 4 of the top five selling trucks....chevy has 3 of those
mw95250 gm is one name...gm also has 4 of the top five selling trucks....chevy has 3 of those
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Originally posted by MW95F250
Yeah but they dont go around saying, buy the new GM-Chevrolet or GM-GMC trucks, GM is not the truck brand name, only the name of their parts, which is what they really outsell Ford in. Cause they sell enough parts to build a new truck every day, maybe that's how they can count most of those sales numbers.
Yeah but they dont go around saying, buy the new GM-Chevrolet or GM-GMC trucks, GM is not the truck brand name, only the name of their parts, which is what they really outsell Ford in. Cause they sell enough parts to build a new truck every day, maybe that's how they can count most of those sales numbers.
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One of the main reasonses Ford is number one is they do large Fleet sales. They build a stripped down version and sell cheaply to large companys like the phone comapany and local governments. Ford builds a great truck but they also sell a cheap truck with fleet discounts. Sell them cheap enough and you'll be number one in sales.
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From: Bass Lake, CA
Originally posted by GatorFishing
One of the main reasonses Ford is number one is they do large Fleet sales. They build a stripped down version and sell cheaply to large companys like the phone comapany and local governments. Ford builds a great truck but they also sell a cheap truck with fleet discounts. Sell them cheap enough and you'll be number one in sales.
One of the main reasonses Ford is number one is they do large Fleet sales. They build a stripped down version and sell cheaply to large companys like the phone comapany and local governments. Ford builds a great truck but they also sell a cheap truck with fleet discounts. Sell them cheap enough and you'll be number one in sales.
why do you think lumina sales were so strong for all those years, they were piles of wharthog dung!
anyhoo, i want to see fors numbers for the f150, f250, and f350 compared to chevy/gmc for their 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton trucks as well. i am curious how the "heavy duty" trucks for ford and gm compare....we already know how the ranger sells
anyway, does anyone have the HD #'s, and SD #' ???
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From: Kentwood, MI
I must add my 2 cents. Yes, there is a difference between a GMC and a Chevy. Just take a look at the front end of these trucks and it's obvious. Back in the eighties and nineties, the difference was a few fender badges. You see commercials for GMC trucks with the 4 wheel steering, but I have yet to see one for a Chevy. If it is available, then I stand corrected.
I recall the original reasoning behind GMC trucks was for Pontiac dealerships to sell trucks without having to sell the Chevrolet name.
Keep in mind, the gauge for "best selling trucks" was invented when there were 4 kinds of trucks, Ford, GMC, Chevy, and Dodge. There were no Rangers, or S-10s, or Explorer Sport Tracs, or Chevy Avalanches...etc. Maybe the standard needs to change with the times.
I recall the original reasoning behind GMC trucks was for Pontiac dealerships to sell trucks without having to sell the Chevrolet name.
Keep in mind, the gauge for "best selling trucks" was invented when there were 4 kinds of trucks, Ford, GMC, Chevy, and Dodge. There were no Rangers, or S-10s, or Explorer Sport Tracs, or Chevy Avalanches...etc. Maybe the standard needs to change with the times.
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From: Joshua Tree, CA
Originally posted by gtkane
You are right,there is a difference. Why? To give people a choice.
Ford and Mercury trucks blended to make the numbers work in their favor,and now they are all the same.
gtkane
You are right,there is a difference. Why? To give people a choice.
Ford and Mercury trucks blended to make the numbers work in their favor,and now they are all the same.
gtkane
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Kinda curious
just read today where toyota is surpassing Ford for the number 2 spot in total vehicle sales.. DIdnt think it possible.. I know Gm is number 1 in total sales, but figured Ford would stay number 2 and never go to number 3.. Thats o.k, always next year, right?
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