SRT Killer!!!
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What is "funny" is actually quite sad. "You made it clear that Ford doesn't make extended cabs anymore." duh? I said no such thing and again you are not paying attention. I said they no longer make F150 regular cabs. Is that REALLY so tough to understand? Yes, it would be nice of the Lightning was built again but it was never an SRT killer and never will be because Ford brass realizes to make it an SRT killer, it would then have to cost so much that sales would be way too low to justify the product planning, development, tooling, engineering, trials and assembly and gov't crash, EPA and other testing. What MIGHT make sense is to offer an existing platform (SportTruck?) with an existing motor (Cobra) (the SRT is an existing bodystyle using an existing Viper motor) and that would not be an SRT killer but still would offer excellent performance at a reasonable price for most of us. My complaint is that the Adrenalin is using the 4.6 and not the 5.4 and either could be used.
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Now you are saying Ford does not build regular cabs anymore? How dense can you possibly be? I just bought one! They DO still build regular cabs! The Lightnings were built from F150's. Ford does not build F150 regular cabs anymore. How many times have I said that now? I guarantee that was my last time and hope it was not real difficult to understand that time! I REALLY suggest you stop looking for fault in my comments. You will not find any! What would be a better use of your time would be to go to Ford's website and actually familiarize yourself with their wonderful offerings.
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Because an existing platform and engine would be required to start another Lightning, I envision the following, since Ford has taken a real liking to superchargers. Make a regular cab F250 with the V-10 and add the supercharger! It would be even better if they could somehow use a shorter bed and wheelbase than the F250's required 8 footer.
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I read on some Viper forum that they don't release that specific info until well after the end of the MY, only overall units right now. I just did another quick search and couldn't find it.
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I got lost in all the back and forth on "regular cab" and "extended cab" stuff. All I can say is that a two door F-150 is available. It is. I don't know how you guys define terms, but I went to the Ford site, put in my zip code and filled out the boxes to spec one out. I don't know if this will show up on yor browser, but lets try:
http://www1.forddirect.fordvehicles....090&statetoken=
If it doesn't work, just put in your own zip code and fill out the form. It clearly let me order a two door work truck. I picked the cheapest with the V-6 engine, but it would let me upgrade that body style to the V-8's also and finally gave me a listing of local dealers who had the truck or similar ones in stock.
But I still say that the two door version in the "new" F-150 body style is going to be several hundred pounds heavier than the competition, and that is a performance killer, and is more than likely the reason for no new Lightning.
http://www1.forddirect.fordvehicles....090&statetoken=
If it doesn't work, just put in your own zip code and fill out the form. It clearly let me order a two door work truck. I picked the cheapest with the V-6 engine, but it would let me upgrade that body style to the V-8's also and finally gave me a listing of local dealers who had the truck or similar ones in stock.
But I still say that the two door version in the "new" F-150 body style is going to be several hundred pounds heavier than the competition, and that is a performance killer, and is more than likely the reason for no new Lightning.
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Originally Posted by Danko
"...by MY definition..." ?????? Nick, You have NOTHING to base that on! I have no "definition" about what they will do with or for the next Lightning or even if there will be one. They do NOT make a regular cab F150 and are not going to come up with a seperate expensive additional bodystyle for a very limited Lightning run. Sure we wish they would but if all of us wishers had been buyers, it might have happened. My wife basically MADE me opt for two four-door F150 HarleyDavidsons instead of any Lightnings. She, like most American truck buyers, wants the room behind the driver's seat. I don't and just bought a regular cab F250 V-10 6-speed and love it! Dakota and F150 are no longer available as regular cabs because the demand is so low for that model. Armada says the problem with the next Lightning will be extra weight. I disagree! They will not USE a heavy model! The financially best option for the next Lightning (remember they HAVE to be lightweight enough to stand a chance of performing!) is to take an EXISTING regular cab model and use it. So what existing regular cabs do they have? Ranger? hm-mm-mmmmmm! The Adrenalin model they are touting is not right. They opted for the 4.6 instead of the 5.4 for it so it will not have the performance it could and should.
Ok, sombody needs to take a nap....seriously, no need to get so worked up over it. The word definition, you know, the word you so kindly decided to switch out of context of what I actually said...was ment towards the extended cab comments. Ford still offers an F-150 regular cab truck. The addition of 2 little tiny doors on the back of the cab, made for convenience, does not automatically delete the regular cab F-150. We should not have to resort to Ford website links to prove this.
...Back on topic....The added weight of the cab in the new F-150 will make the new Lightning heavier of course. If Ford can make the engine on the new truck produce more torque then the srt-10, i believe it will hold its own.
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Nick says it well. Armada, Any cab that is extended, as are all F150 "2 doors", are by definition not "regular cabs." Nothing requiring a nap. Some young 'uns could just benefit by paying a little attention to those that know. Clear? 2 doors are not regular cabs if that cab extends behind the driver's seat more than a few inches. They sure as Hell are not reg cabs if there are 4 doors of any kind. The purpose of all of this, as Nick said, is weight!
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Who is making up these definitions? My 1994 was a 2 door extended cab. My 2000 is a 4 door extended cab. The one thing they both have in comon making them both extended cabs is the additional seating. By my definition the new F150 is a regular cab because it does not offer the extra seating.
I dont care what configuration the new lightning comes in, wheather its a reg, extended, or super crew. It will have a 300hp 5.4L most likely with a SC. That doesnt sound like anything to b!tch about.
I dont care what configuration the new lightning comes in, wheather its a reg, extended, or super crew. It will have a 300hp 5.4L most likely with a SC. That doesnt sound like anything to b!tch about.
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Mad, Where do you come up with your "bitch about" comment? I am trying to help and you are trying to do what? Find fault with good info? Why? The term regular cab is used for what I described above. Look at ordering info and you can confirm. ALL Lightnings have been regular cabs, so far. Other truck cab configurations are extended cabs and crew cabs regardless of the seats. The Lightning may or may not come back and if it does, it will not be a 300 h.p. 5.4. That would be nothing special and is currently available on any F150. You may be confusing it with the 2006 F150 HarleyDavidson. After 2 years as a SuperDuty, the Harley Ford is again a halfton and is not going to offer a special engine as it did when last was a halfton/150. Since the 2003 M.Y., the HD is no longer a performance pkg., just a trim level. There are no unique engines available with the Harleys anymore. That helps keep the resale up for my 2002 and 2003 HD's.