Yea...we all know deep inside that it could break at any minute...

 

I think he was referring to the "ignorance" of not knowing what a lifter sounded like (as a good thing)

 

I figured that. I'm not sure I want to know what a "lifter" sounds like. It would drive me crazy, trying to listen for it and wonder if it was going to break or what. I don't need that kinda stress in my life. I can just see it...the lifter, my 3 1/2 year old and 2 year old fighting in the back and my wife being a passenger seat driver all at the same time, while the idiot in front of my won't move in that mini van. Yea...that works. NOT.

 

GEEZ, DD, I'm gettign stressed just THINKING about that scenario...

but I woulda ran over the mini van by now
and had the tunes up loud enough even a TWO year old couldn't beat them....
course that woulda cost me 5k for hearing aids for the kids, and :_

 

I used to tell mine when they were 2, 4 & 6 that I would make them get out and leave them by the side of the road for some monster to pick up. They would make quite a racket fighting in the back seat and the wife doubling the din yelling at them. The grandchildren remind me how it was every once in a while. I have no Idea how the three of them lived to be adults. By the Grace of God, nothing else.

 

Didn't know you were such an old man Choctaw! LOL

Yes...the back seat and passenger seat can become very loud and distracting. Sometimes my daughter will cry and throw tantrums all the way home from Reno (45 mins). We have tried everything to calm her down, but the bottom line is she want's out of the child seat.

We should tell Ford to make a truck with an automatic divider between the driver and all passengers. Push a button and instant silence. ahhh.

 

Seems like the Ford guys aren't the only ones that dislike the banks system/programmers or are the only ones that have problems with them burning down their trucks. Even the Crummins boys think the Banks is a POSitively bad deal. True the intercooler is a good thing, but seems like the system fails quite often resulting in burnt down motors. Only thing that really didn't surprise me was how SLOW they were. One of their "bad boys" dyno'd at 123. My truck can FART and go that fast

 

Ken Grody Ford in So. CA sells and installs Banks products.

 

Stock sucks.
Save $$ and stay away from Banks. S o many other products that are cheaper and better.

I used to drool over their products and now i just laugh.
Only exception is the intercooler IMO and i still can't part with $1,000 for it.

 

I have also heard that Ken Grody Ford in Carlsbad, CA will install it. I also hear that if there is a problem take it to them because they are "mod friendly". Pretty handy bit of info for me anyway.

 

I laugh at you because of what you have said. The system they sell is one that is in a box. If that is what someone wants it is probably the best out there because it is simple to install and does not have the interoperability issues that I have seen that is common with piece mealing things together. The money for it is not any more than the rest of the chips, tuners, and gauge packs when you add it all up by finding the right combination and if you add installation because it is not as simple you are actually paying more. In addition you don't have your mods listed in a gallery as you say. Do you really have any mods? I do not disagree that Banks customer service is horrible but I have had no issues with the product as many of my fellow Ford, GM and Dodge users have with their non Banks products. My snowmobile buddy spent in excess of $3500 finding the right combination of chips and even tried stacking and got less HP than I got for the system that you laugh at with three times the headache. I don't want to be crude but give me a break. All of these systems at one time or another will probably cause someone an issue. What it boils down to is customer service and Banks does not have it.

 

I'm not a member so my mods were deleted.
I bought Banks monster exhaust and downpipe.
Was gonna go for the rest of the parts but held back after people starting reporting probs with 6 gun and their customer service.
Laught at me? Why?
The 6 gun cost about $800 and a superchips or predator costs $400.
The banks makes less power than advertised and way less than the brands i mentioned in the highest setting.
Banks exhaust cost about $1k with downpipe and the same type product can be had for $600 from motorhaven.
You bought Banks and are inclined to defend the brand you bought.I can understand that as i also bought Banks.
I do think the bundle is attractive for people who want a package deal but if you stand back you can see that you can buy the parts seperately from another vendor for less money and without the headaches you presume are immenient by doing so.
If mixing brands ='s interoperablity issues then SCT would not be in business and over half the guys here would have inoperational trucks. Buying a kit or Bundle from the same source may work great for you but lets face the facts here:your $$ at banks doesn't go so far and how many people have come on this board experiencing grenaded motors with banks? More than just the isolated few. Oh, and you agree that their customer service is lacking so why are you laughing at me agin sir?
EX: tuner, exhaust and gauges from motorhaven for $1600 versus what, $2,500 or more for the Banks equivalant.
If you go talk to dyno operators who have run all combo's and brands from customer installs or enthusiast dyno shoot outs you will come to realize that Banks is a pretty product in a pretty box at a not so pretty price or CS.

Oh, lets take a second and reflect on the warranty issue when using banks(the source of this thread). While any modding is a no-no as far as Ford is concerned, i think the 6gun is at a disadvantage being its hardware and not software like superchips or predator.
In line fuel box and a big **** in the dash puts you most at-risk when you go to a dealer.
I will agree with you that arranging or stacking different products can be very hazordous to one's motor you will never get me to agree that a tuner used responsibly with gauges and\or exhaust is detrimental to a truck.

I'm glad for you that you have a had a good experience with your banks products.

FYI: I currently run full Banks monster, x-monitor and scmt 1704, oilguard, rimlockers, lightbar with hella's,hellwig sway, etc.

 

Thanks and sorry if I was blasting you. I am just tired of the blasting of the Banks products and I have had other products too. The Edge blew up a Ford right when I was making my decision between the two but no one in here mentions anything like that. I paid a lot less than what you did for the products and I got more power than Banks advertised. I paid $600 for the exhaust with downpipe. Paid 900 for the six gun Gauge, gauge pack and the dash mount gauge pod. The gauges and gauge pod were 350 so I paid roughly 550 for the Six gun. Do the math, that is 1500 out pocket versus your posted 1600. How is that more expensive? I have to be honest with you and I have said this before, buying something in a package for me was my main concern. I got what I wanted and it met the numbers banks posted. As for customer service, I have only had one issue with them and it is with their service department. They gave me bad information about what to disconnect to update the flash. Paying $400 for a chip that you need to reprogram and/or send in to have it re-done sounds like a lot of fun to me. Talk about a headache, I don't have that headache. I agree with you to each his own. I am a happy Banks customer because their products did what they said it would and my numbers that I posted in my gallery are higher than what they said it would do. I do not have the intercooler either because I cannot separate that much cash from my wallet but that will probably add to the HP/Torque too. Honestly,with your numbers I actually paid less than some that have bought things separately. I am not really laughing at you I am just kind of laughing at this whole thread. Buy what you want, they all work. Sand King got a bad deal but stop lying about how much this stuff really costs from Banks. I think the 2500 might include the intercooler. If you can get all of that somewhere else for 1600 go for it. I am going to stop arguing with you about the fact. Banks service is not what they advertise. The product is however fine for many. In here is the people that have had issues with their product or truck. It does not represent the thousands of people that have not had any issues.

 

Okay sounds good. Whatever works for you.
Sounds like you got your gear real cheap.
I just looked at the Banks website and they sell the the 6gun for $750.
I'm not lying about their retail prices.

Guys here rag on whatever breaks.
I've read people bash on edge for accelerating tranny wear so i don't think Banks is unfairly singled out with sertain isssues.
I've also read from guys like you who are really happy with Banks.

At the end of the day i just think the same quality can be had safely for less money and with better customer service. Just my opinion of course.

I still urge for their intercooler though.

Oh and

I agree about sandking and truly hope is situation worked out.

 

Again, sorry just got caught up in it. Your right, I got a deal and bought it at the right time. Banks has sales from time to time even though they say they don't. They just called a week or so ago knocking off 10% off their intercooler price. It is still over $1000 even at that price.