If it's plain stupid, blaim Ford. I was just quoting what their own technicians are saying. It's the same thing that BMW does with their new automatics and the same thing that even my friends Corolla has. Hell, the corolla doesn't even have a tranny dipstick. Trying to speak on a subject that you don't have facts on is just plain stupid!!

 

Sorry 73fastback, wasent directed at you or anything like that,it is totally rediculous though, Back in 95 when dexron3 superceded dexron2 tranny fluid, Gm said that all there truck trannys with dexron 3 never needed to be seviced. That was a crock of ****!!! Gm is definently not known for tranny longititvity. The 4l60e unless serviced frequently is just an engenering failure.

 

A truck has a bed on it for hauling cargo such as a ton of wood pellets or a cord of firewood or a load of chimney blocks, you get the idea.

And 370 ft lbs is not near enough power to pull a load over 6000 pounds and maintain the speed limit on grades over 3%.

The tow rating on both the Datsun and F150 are way over rated.

Now go get some groceries

 

No offense, abmobil, just wound up over being called a redneck (I prefer to listen to Ozzy) earlier. I don't know any of the specs on all those new trannies, I was just speaking from experience (my best friend has an 04 Corolla as does my sister--i cry for both of them & my aunt has an 04 545i)

 

Again you are owned. Go away with your biased attitude.

http://www.trailerboats.com/site_pag...e_page_259.cfm

FLATLAND TOWING
This is the entry exam for a tow vehicle. A bad performance towing an appropriate load on flat stretches of highway means the builder should go back to the drawing board. We noted no bad performances this year.

The Chevy ran very well on the open highway and had no trouble keeping the 7840-pound load rolling under moderate throttle pressure once we were up to speed. In third gear we could cruise 55 mph at an engine speed of 2450 rpm. A road speed of 65 mph would bring the revs up to 2900, a good operating range for the Chevy, but we had to open the throttle wide to jump into the 5300 Vortec’s power band.

On flat highway, Ford’s F-150 easily hauled the test trailer boat at 55 mph in third gear at 2100 rpm. A speed of 65 mph could be maintained at 2500 rpm in the same gear. The Ford’s engine was already producing a generous amount of torque at this operating speed range, so power was just a push of the pedal away. Little if any pedal pressure was required to maintain speed.

On stretches of flat highway, the Nissan Titan offered wonderful performance. Open highway cruising could be done with leisure at 65 mph in fourth gear at 2300 rpm or at 55 mph in fourth gear at 1900 rpm. Because the 5.6L Endurance V-8 begins to produce a healthy amount of torque in the low 2000 rpm range, you can tap into power fairly quickly.

MOUNTAIN TOWING
On a moderate climb (3-percent grade on our test course), the Chevy Silverado was able to maintain its flatland speeds without stress, and could pull the hill with a little power left over. We found the engine pulled this grade best at 2800 rpm. However, the steepest (6-percent grade) hill and the 7840-pound load brought the Chevy to its knees with a speed of 45 mph only maintained in second gear with the engine spinning at 3300 rpm. It could not maintain speed in third gear on this steepest grade. Almost no acceleration was available.

The Ford F-150 pulled the 3-percent grade easily in third gear at 2600 rpm, and could accelerate up this incline in third gear. However, on the 6-percent grade, the Ford began to slow, too. It could only keep up a 40 mph pace if in second gear at 2700 rpm, but if slowed by impeding traffic to below 2000 rpm, the F-150 could not get back up to speed on our steepest test incline unless dropped into first gear for a moment.

Nissan’s Titan wouldn’t pull fourth gear on the 3-percent grade but would easily cruise up the moderate incline in third gear at 55 mph at 3100 rpm, and accelerate in this gear from 55 mph. On the 6-percent grade, the Titan would comfortably pull the hill at 40 mph in third gear at 2400 rpm, but almost no acceleration was left over. The Titan’s engine pulled best when running in the 2500 to 3000 rpm range, and was judged to be the best hill climber of the trio.

 

I'm not going away from the FTE site, why don't you go away?
Look at your last post under MOUNTAIN TOWING, it states exactly what I was saying,
with a #7840 load neither the Ford or the datsun would pull 6% above 40 mph.
A #9900 tow rating is BS and misleading to people who use the rating to decide how big of a camp trailer to buy, or if it will pull the boat they all ready have.

Now I'm sure you need to run to the store for something?

 

If you READ, it says in 3rd gear in the Nissan in 2nd gear in the Ford. If the Nissan went down to 2nd, it would accelerate. DUH!

 

Now thats funny!!!!!
So the datsun will maintain a highway speed limit of say 60mph in SECOND GEAR?
Put a load behind your motorized shopping cart and go see for your self.

 

Ummm 40 mph, not 60. We are talking about 6% incline. When are you going to actually read?
My god your a embarrassment to the ford community.

 

Again, YOU are owned. Who cares what gear you have to drop into when going up a hill? You also fail to mention what happens to the KneesOn when it was slowed by impeding traffic. If you really want to talk towing, then compare it to a 3V v10 or a PSD, as these are the best Ford offers compared to the puny Titan (the best of KneesOn has to offer).

 

You owned yourself. EOS.

 

I'm owned by nobody, pal. I have a 71 Boss 351, a 2000 Mercury Grand Marquis, a 1984 BMW 733i, a 1999 Dodge Ram 1500, a 2000 Kia Sephia, and a 2003 Kia Rio. I just sold both of my Toyota Supras. There's no brand loyalty here, Titan boy.

On a side note, what's with Nissan's emblem? Chevy has a bowtie, Dodge has the ram, Ford has the blue oval. Nissan has nothing. Hmmm...foreshadowing???

 

Apparently we can't keep any comparisons with Titan owners on point and without personal attacks.

I'm beginning to get a real dislike for Nissan products for no other reason than the users that troll here and find it necessary to attack FTE members.

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