I disconnected the battery prior to the install and reconnected it after the install, which was probably about 30 minutes.

 

Cool. I went ahead just reinstalled everything from scratch and left the battery unhooked for about 45 minutes.

 

Yeah........aannnddd??????????

what happened next?

Finish the story man.

 

I'm still giving it time. Everything seems to be in place and working now.

Here's the latest:

I got off the phone with Ken yesterday and decided to reclean and start all the way over from scratch. I have the switch routed exactly where you have yours routed. That was a lot easier than I thought it would be!

I still haven't noticed a big difference.

Anyways, after I reinstalled everything yesterday, I ran it down my road 3 times with the switch off and 3 with the switch on. Basically the same thing. I know the chip is making good contact because the trucks starts right up and the govenor is definately gone with the chip on. This is what I notice:

end of 3rd gear is a little faster.
4th gear is a little faster when flooring it past 100.

Those are basically the only 2 differences that are noticable at this point. Ken said something about being able to make it more aggresive. If this is true, I may send the chip back to him of something like that.

 

I think it's easier to feel a difference in an automatic trans vehicle. Mostly because there is no clutch or shifting to absorb the feeling.

For instance, when I turn my computer on and hit the gas from a stopped position, i can feel a huge lunge or surge of power instantly, because there is no clutch to disengage, so the second i hit the gas, the car takes off.

Perhaps you can't feel that because your slipping the clutch upon take off. I think the clutch takes away from some of the "feeling" of added power. Plus, the chip doesn't perform any transmission tasks on the manual trans, as it does on the auto so this takes away from some feeling also. And its tough to be "consistent" with a manual. You can do 8 runs in the 1/4 with a manual and have 8 completely different times depending on how quickly you shift. Whereas an auto will give you almost exactly the same times each run. Therefore, it is easier to tell if your chip is creating any additional power or not.

Tom

 

That's true. I've gotten to where I can pretty much nail the start. Sometimes I spin my tires too much though.

 

Time for stickier rubber Joe. Alfred just got those sweetie Duelers for his. Peeling out and blowing white billowing puffs of smoke is cool, but it doesn't win you races. I love smokin' the bike though, that's always fun. But at 200.00 per tire and a life span of 5k miles, it can be costly.

 

Well, here is my advise. If you arent satisfied with the product, and there is a moneyback gaurantee, use it. Not saying it is anyones fault, but if the truck is exceeding the rev limiter, then it is making good contact, no matter what. It then breaks down to, you are not happy with the gains it gave you. Thats why the have the money back.

IMHO

Garrett

 

First, before you return it, let me tell you a little something about chips. Chips are touch-n-go. I installed a SuperChip programmer in my Lincoln, which did nothing so I returned it. I also installed a JET chip in my F150 which made it slower.

But, even though the JET made my truck slower, according to Moroso's 1/4 mile clock, Garrett says he notices a performance increase.

When I ran my Diablo at the track and gained .4 seconds, everyone was shocked. They couldn't believe I gained that much from a chip.

Typically, a chip will only get you 2 tenths in the 1/4. That's a fact.

Now tell me something Joe, do you think your *** is sensative enough to FEEL 2 tenths?? Probably not.

Like many modifications you make with your vehicle, alot of them work off of each other. For instance, and exhaust may get you 10 horsepower by itself, and an intake may get you 10 horsepower by itself.

Now you would think if you installed both onto your truck together, you would get an extra 20 horsepower? That is normally not the case. Because they work off of each other you may see results of 25 or even 30 horsepower gains.

Now the numbers I used are hypathetical, but the statement is true.

You say your truck is basically stock. Perhaps the chip WANTS to work better, but cannot suck enough air to do so, or maybe wants a bigger spark, or wants to expel gases quicker. I put my chip on my truck after I've already modified all that stuff, so that's probably why I saw such big gains.

Fact is that if your going to continue to modify your truck by adding an intake and headers and fans and all that, your going to need the chip. You may not FEEL the 2 tenths now, but you will later, after you modify your motor more.

Then again, sometimes chips work and sometimes they don't. That's why I always say that I don't beleive the gains that manufacturers claim, because in the world of engine modification, sometimes things work and sometimes they don't.

If I had saved all the money I've wasted over the years on parts that did not perform the way they claim, I'd be a rich man.

Remember that the next time you see an advertisement that states all these horsepower gains and so forth, truth is, you won't know what it will do until you dish out the cash and install it.

Tom

 

Joe and Tom, here is my insight:

I in no way disagree with you Tom, I actually agree with you 100%. Just my way to re-inforce and say, "Yes, what he said"

But, even though the JET made my truck slower, according to Moroso's 1/4 mile clock, Garrett says he notices a performance increase.

This is true, but I do admit, mine was to feel. I also stated I couldnt tell if the chip actually did anything. What I did say though, was that I also couldnt tell because of the amount of mods I put on. Virtually all my mods went on at the same time. So, what I reported was that I may have been wrong about the chips performance, but my MPG is consistantly 20MPG. Diablo claims that, and I dont know ANYONE that agrees with their statement. If anything, all they do is make you run lean, and thats not necessarily a great thing either.

"When I ran my Diablo at the track and gained .4 seconds, everyone was shocked. They couldn't believe I gained that much from a chip.

Typically, a chip will only get you 2 tenths in the 1/4. That's a fact."

On this note, Tom's numbers arent typical. Its the same thing that slimfast claims. You too can lose 35 pounds in 6 weeks on slimfast. But those results are NOT typical. I dont think you can base your goals on a single chip with the results from one person.

"Now tell me something Joe, do you think your *** is sensative enough to FEEL 2 tenths?? Probably not. "

I agree with you here Tom. I have a big ****, but its not that good.


"You say your truck is basically stock. Perhaps the chip WANTS to work better, but cannot suck enough air to do so, or maybe wants a bigger spark, or wants to expel gases quicker. I put my chip on my truck after I've already modified all that stuff, so that's probably why I saw such big gains."

This, IMHO, makes your claim for 4 tenths a little misleading. I thought all you had was the chip. Thats why I was soo impressed. I didnt know you had intake and exhaust already done. The chip is able to optimize much easier and better with these.

Fact is that if your going to continue to modify your truck by adding an intake and headers and fans and all that, your going to need the chip. You may not FEEL the 2 tenths now, but you will later, after you modify your motor more. "

This is an extremely accurate statement. I dont think a chip by itself will do anything but give you potential. At least not in our engines.

"Then again, sometimes chips work and sometimes they don't. That's why I always say that I don't beleive the gains that manufacturers claim, because in the world of engine modification, sometimes things work and sometimes they don't. "

This again is why they have the money back deal. They cant promise that you will wet yourself over the results. If they do, think about the reality of the situation.

I hope this helps Joe. I hope it works out.

Garrett

 

I love when people quote me And yes Garrett, that's probably why I acheived the .4 seconds, because of my other mods already being on there. The chip FEEDS off these mods, just like you said.

Joe,

There you have it, two (2) supremely intelligent dudes giving you good advice, it's your decision whether you want to return it or not.

p.s. One of those two dudes is a tad bit more supremely intelligent than the other....*ahem*

tom

 

p.s. One of those two dudes is a tad bit more supremely intelligent than the other....*ahem*

Thanks Tom I appreciate the compliment.

Joe, Once again I agree with Tom. Its up to you about the chip. Just keep this all in mind.

Garrett

 

 

I think that is going to make the most difference with my decision. For now, I am going to stick with the chip. At first, I felt nothing, but now a couple days later, I can tell a little difference. I'm thinking that an intake and a Flow will increase the chips performance potential at least. Thanks for the advice guys. It's good to be on the recieving end once in a while.

 

Joe,

I thought you had an exhaust.

Tom