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My daughter came to visit last year in her Ev, it took four charge stops roughly 1 hour apiece , a normal 8 hour trip turned into 14/15 hour trip, not all charge stations are created equal and are in operation, she now has to buy a Tesla pig tail adapter to fit her ford to be able to use a Tesla station and finding one on a long trip was not a easy task in Rural areas , big city’s not a problem , even McDonald’s has a couple , but they’ll getcha on the $15 sirloin burger , it’s a big NO for me .
From someone who's three years into his third Ford plug-in, there's no way you want an EV as your only vehicle. They're GREAT for going to work and back and anything around town, but I either take my Shelby or truck when I leave town. I've only taken the Mach-E once overnight, and that was to Half Moon Bay. The valet at the Ritz Carlton charged it, but I would have made it home on the initial charge.
They're GREAT for going to work and back and anything around town,
Even better when you work somewhere with charging stations available. A lot of modern complexes have charging stations. Only problem is that there may be a half dozen charging stations, and at least a dozen EV owners. There are always a few people who leave their EV parked in the charging station, after they are done charging. So everyone else who does need to charge, can't, because this person is obstructing access to the charger. That would be like me peeing in the pool after I'm done swimming, so that nobody else can use the pool after I'm done.
LOL. If I owned a Shelby I wouldn't take my EV anywhere.
Jim
Yeah, until you drive it somewhere and some Camaro tard kicks your fender in. I saw that in Vegas on a very nice GT500 during the Mustang's 50th anniversary celebration.
Even better when you work somewhere with charging stations available. A lot of modern complexes have charging stations. Only problem is that there may be a half dozen charging stations, and at least a dozen EV owners. There are always a few people who leave their EV parked in the charging station, after they are done charging. So everyone else who does need to charge, can't, because this person is obstructing access to the charger. That would be like me peeing in the pool after I'm done swimming, so that nobody else can use the pool after I'm done.
The funny thing is there's a row of about 10 EV chargers now at my building at work, and they are the best spots haha. I guess they're near the building to facilitate the electrical feeds. They only let you charge there for 4 hours, maximum, controlled by the CharePoint charger. I get there at 6, charge to a little after 7, go out and unplug/replug since there's very few people there. That was I can charge about 5 hours and leave for lunch at 11. They the folks who roll in at 11 can plug their Tesla in. They're almost all Tesla's. There's one shell-shocked guy with a Fiskar though. He's screwed. No software updates or service for him at this point.
Also, I pay 14 cents per kWh at work and my marginal rate at home is closer to 70.
HOLY COW!! .70 cents a kWh? Is that right? I just looked at what it costs here in Chelan county where I live, .03 cents a kWh, they say it's about the same as buying gas at .22 cents a gallon. Of course there are 4 hydroelectric dams within an hours drive from here on the Columbia river.
Very difficult to compare an electric vehicle to a vehicle with an internal combustion engine.
The cost per mile is very different, for everyone. Cost per electricity kilowatt hour, vs cost per gallon of gas.
There are maintenance costs for both. An EV still has tires, brakes, and other components such as the cooling system, which needs regular inspection and maintenance. Motors turn the wheels, and there are mechanical parts which move. Then there is the electrical system which charges the batteries, and the batteries themselves. It goes without saying that EV mechanics are charging a premium for their services.
Parts availability is also an issue at times. You hear nightmare stories about EV cars sitting in a shop for months, even over a year, waiting for parts. Just as bad for collision repair and auto glass. If someone breaks the window on your Tesla, good luck getting a replacement piece of auto glass. And for whatever reason, even tires cost more for electric vehicles.
I could be wrong. But an electric vehicle does leave an environmental footprint. The batteries are still a big factor, with manufacturing and recycling. An EV has the equivalent of something like 10 or 12 car batteries. In the last 20 years, my pickup truck has used 3 batteries, and it's currently using the 4th battery. All of that electricity has to be produced and delivered. Just because you don't have a tailpipe, there's a power plant somewhere which has to release pollutants in order to generate the power, then send it down the line to you.
A lot of factors to consider. Is the EV going to replace all internal combustion engines and hybrid powertrains? What about hybrids? Are those falling out of favor? Are there other technologies on the horizon? Toyota, Nissan, and Mazda are still developing engines.
HOLY COW!! .70 cents a kWh? Is that right? I just looked at what it costs here in Chelan county where I live, .03 cents a kWh, they say it's about the same as buying gas at .22 cents a gallon. Of course there are 4 hydroelectric dams within an hours drive from here on the Columbia river.
Yeah. My base rate is something like 34 cents, then jumps to the high fifties. I used to just get into the 70 cent range at the end of the year but I made two changes to prevent that. First, I told my gf the "get your **** and get the **** out." Second, I started charging my tenant for the juice he uses. I didn't see 70 after that.
Our cost/KWH varies between 49 cents to 86 cents per KWH. I think that's mainly driven by our well pump, which runs about once a week. The days when the well pump is not running are at the low end, and days when it does run are at the high end.
I will admit that I don't even look at my utility bill. It just gets paid. It's one of those things where I can't possibly look it over, and question. No way am I going to ask, "is this right?" I have no way of knowing how much electricity I used. So there's no way for me to question if I actually used it, or if there was an error. I do have a smart meter. If I were smart, I would monitor the meter readings. But I just accept the bill and hope that I'm not getting cheated.
It is always upsetting when I think of how much we pay for our basic quality of life items like housing, food, utilities, and fuel.
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