My Truck May Have Met Its Match...
#61
10-11-2023, 11:19 AM
Laughing Gas
Don't know why the company has this big freakin' Toy Hauler, but my truck sure didn't like it, first, and hopefully last time hauling it.
Momentum 350, 40 feet long, 16,850 GVWR, a little less than 14K actual weight.
Booger was that it has a big 7.5 KW generator up front, combo of that and a big empty back end, made it way nose heavy.
Not sure what the pin weight is, but had my truck bouncing off the bump stops, rough roads were no fun.
Momentum 350, 40 feet long, 16,850 GVWR, a little less than 14K actual weight.
Booger was that it has a big 7.5 KW generator up front, combo of that and a big empty back end, made it way nose heavy.
Not sure what the pin weight is, but had my truck bouncing off the bump stops, rough roads were no fun.
#62
10-11-2023, 11:49 AM
That may be, but review the transcript of the 911 call that came through dispatch...
Don't know why the company has this big freakin' Toy Hauler, but my truck sure didn't like it, first, and hopefully last time hauling it.
Momentum 350, 40 feet long, 16,850 GVWR, a little less than 14K actual weight.
Booger was that it has a big 7.5 KW generator up front, combo of that and a big empty back end, made it way nose heavy.
Not sure what the pin weight is, but had my truck bouncing off the bump stops, rough roads were no fun.
Momentum 350, 40 feet long, 16,850 GVWR, a little less than 14K actual weight.
Booger was that it has a big 7.5 KW generator up front, combo of that and a big empty back end, made it way nose heavy.
Not sure what the pin weight is, but had my truck bouncing off the bump stops, rough roads were no fun.
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#63
10-11-2023, 01:51 PM
Laughing Gas
Here's my weigh stickers with the 395M, an atv in the back, and some groceries in the fridge. That's about as heavy as it's ever going to be. F-450 Lariat.
As you can see, the trailer puts 3420 lbs on the drive axle, and 60 lbs on the steer axle. Total trailer weight 18,900.
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#64
10-11-2023, 02:31 PM
#65
10-11-2023, 02:38 PM
Laughing Gas
#66
10-11-2023, 02:54 PM
If you have a CDL Class A, sure, go by registered weight. If you DON'T have a CDL class A, that manufacturer sticker with the GVWR means EVERYTHING! It is 100% legal territory when it comes to Federal, which is what every single state uses to make money with. Well, you weigh only 24K, but your combined truck and trailer stickers show 27,000 and you don't have a CDL, so here are a few tickets and fines to make your day, Oh and BTW, your out of service until you find a a CDL driver to take over.
The only exception to this is if you are hauling your OWN equipment or RV. Better have all the paperwork showing you own it though.
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#67
10-11-2023, 08:12 PM
How did you determine that your 3/4 ton F-250 has a tow rating of 17,150 lbs?
#68
10-11-2023, 09:07 PM
Cargo Master
The Towing police?
There's no way a dry shipping weight 14,000 lb 5th wheel would be able to transfer enough to the pin to overload an HD pickup rear axle. Even if it was something ridiculous like 3,000 lbs there is no way the drive axle empty weighs 4,000 lbs on an 8,000 lb truck (maybe) when the front is the heavy end. Maybe if you had a big slip tank in the bed you could be pushing it.
There's no way a dry shipping weight 14,000 lb 5th wheel would be able to transfer enough to the pin to overload an HD pickup rear axle. Even if it was something ridiculous like 3,000 lbs there is no way the drive axle empty weighs 4,000 lbs on an 8,000 lb truck (maybe) when the front is the heavy end. Maybe if you had a big slip tank in the bed you could be pushing it.
#69
10-11-2023, 09:20 PM
Cargo Master
If you have a CDL Class A, sure, go by registered weight. If you DON'T have a CDL class A, that manufacturer sticker with the GVWR means EVERYTHING! It is 100% legal territory when it comes to Federal, which is what every single state uses to make money with. Well, you weigh only 24K, but your combined truck and trailer stickers show 27,000 and you don't have a CDL, so here are a few tickets and fines to make your day, Oh and BTW, your out of service until you find a a CDL driver to take over.
The only exception to this is if you are hauling your OWN equipment or RV. Better have all the paperwork showing you own it though.
The only exception to this is if you are hauling your OWN equipment or RV. Better have all the paperwork showing you own it though.
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#70
10-11-2023, 09:28 PM
I don't recall the 17,150 comment, but if I did post it, it must have been a typo, and I meant 15,150, which I do recall posting more than once somewhere off the top of my head, which is off by 50 pounds it seems.
But, what difference does it make to this thread???
I'm sure if you do a few more days worth of research into all of my old comments, you can find some more that aren't exactly correct.
Some sort of fetish you have?
#71
10-11-2023, 10:59 PM
A 16,850 lb GVWR trailer is above 16,000 GVWR, and yet is below your previously stated 17,150 lb. tow rating, hence the question of how you arrived at that tow rating.
The rear axle ratio, and the presence or lack of the overload spring in the spring pack, are two significant elements in how a truck is equipped that differentiate the tow ratings of F-250 models.
That differentiation is what makes the difference for the towing experience described in the topic of this thread.
The rear axle ratio, and the presence or lack of the overload spring in the spring pack, are two significant elements in how a truck is equipped that differentiate the tow ratings of F-250 models.
That differentiation is what makes the difference for the towing experience described in the topic of this thread.
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#72
10-12-2023, 08:05 AM
Fleet Mechanic
A 16,850 lb GVWR trailer is above 16,000 GVWR, and yet is below your previously stated 17,150 lb. tow rating, hence the question of how you arrived at that tow rating.
The rear axle ratio, and the presence or lack of the overload spring in the spring pack, are two significant elements in how a truck is equipped that differentiate the tow ratings of F-250 models.
That differentiation is what makes the difference for the towing experience described in the topic of this thread.
The rear axle ratio, and the presence or lack of the overload spring in the spring pack, are two significant elements in how a truck is equipped that differentiate the tow ratings of F-250 models.
That differentiation is what makes the difference for the towing experience described in the topic of this thread.
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"Booger was that it has a big 7.5 KW generator up front, combo of that and a big empty back end, made it way nose heavy.
Not sure what the pin weight is, but had my truck bouncing off the bump stops, rough roads were no fun."
#73
10-12-2023, 08:12 AM
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This thread has been very enlightening for me. I didn’t realize the requirements for needing a CDL. So a lot of these huge truck and RV combinations I see rolling through here require a CDL. The trash truck driver told me it now costs $4K to get a CDL. Here’s a flow chart from my state’s DOT website.
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#74
10-12-2023, 08:53 AM
Cargo Master
This thread has been very enlightening for me. I didn’t realize the requirements for needing a CDL. So a lot of these huge truck and RV combinations I see rolling through here require a CDL. The trash truck driver told me it now costs $4K to get a CDL. Here’s a flow chart from my state’s DOT website.
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