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Old 10-10-2023, 07:08 PM
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He decided not to fight it because he knew he was way overweight according to the door jam sticker.
Furthermore, his neighbor, who is an attorney, told him he would be up the creek without a paddle if he ever got into a wreck using same truck/trailer combo after already being ticketed.
He solved it the easy way. He traded in the 250 on a 350.
yep, and I would have hired an attorney who is smart, and broke down spec by spec an f250 to an f350, amd furthermore, compared the sterling 10.50 axles to a 2016 f350 which uses the same and has a payload of 3600lbs and a weaker frame and suspension. Then I would counter sue the **** out of them. If its unsafe for a f250 then it's unsafe for an f350, if an f250 can't stop it then an f350 can't. The reason a f250 was created was just for states on registering purposes. If there going to sue they will sue, and I guarantee you the change to an f350 won't make a single difference it an outcome. They will still sue.
 
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yep, and I would have hired an attorney who is smart, and broke down spec by spec an f250 to an f350, amd furthermore, compared the sterling 10.50 axles to a 2016 f350 which uses the same and has a payload of 3600lbs and a weaker frame and suspension. Then I would counter sue the **** out of them. If its unsafe for a f250 then it's unsafe for an f350, if an f250 can't stop it then an f350 can't. The reason a f250 was created was just for states on registering purposes.
Why go to all the trouble when the F350 is only a few more dollars to purchase?
Why go to the trouble to buy a 250 and put up with the hassle?

 
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Old 10-10-2023, 07:14 PM
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Why go to all the trouble when the F350 is only a few more dollars to purchase?
Why go to the trouble to buy a 250 and put up with the hassle?
agree, but alot of folks buy used, an an f250 is more readily available. I wouldnt rule it out over something this dumb, if time and place comes, you can prove the f250 vs. F350 spec by spec and see if one can't do it neither can.
 
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Old 10-10-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr

Not something I worry about.
Truck was not over its tire load rating, all I care about.
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Hey did see the picture of the dodge truck that broke his frame because his payload was over his limit. https://www.thedrive.com/news/broken...ad-a-big-truck


You have a f250 and you payload does matter. You need to know your pin weight. You said 40 feet long, I would think dually for that. Have you had it on the scales fully loaded? I think that will answer the questions.
Things that can help
air bags
heavy duty(350 450 springs)
Axle change to dually.


 
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I'm moving on up, to load range "F"

I just received my next set of tires for my F-350 SCLB 6.7 Lariat and they are 33"x12.5" x 20" Load range "F" 12-ply. My truck has the optional snowplow/camper and 11,400lb GVWR packages and I have the Air Lift 7500XL bags. I'm running the OEM Michelin A/S 275/65r20 load range "E" tires at present with 42k mi on them.

My goal with this combo is a smoother ride with my four LED headlights not in oncoming driver's eyes. I'm running 65psi all around towing an 31' toy hauler with a 1060lb hitch weight and 11,400lb GVWR. Loaded with two street bikes and 100 gallons of water and I'm sure that it's loaded down. Add to this whatever is in the b. Ied and cab of the truck. I'm glad that I upgraded the hitch to a 14K Equalizer Load distributing hitch.
 
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Some of you guys just seem to want to "fix" my towing issue, but I'm not changing anything except that I won't tow that big, front heavy booger again, problem solved!
 
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CAT scales are few and far between around here, so yes, you’d have to drive quite a few certain number of miles. LoL
Sorry for the distraction guys, but that was a good comeback! I know when I've been bested, and ain't afraid to admit it.
 
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Hey did see the picture of the dodge truck that broke his frame because his payload was over his limit. https://www.thedrive.com/news/broken...ad-a-big-truck


You have a f250 and you payload does matter. You need to know your pin weight. You said 40 feet long, I would think dually for that. Have you had it on the scales fully loaded? I think that will answer the questions.
Things that can help
air bags
heavy duty(350 450 springs)
Axle change to dually.
Same frame as on the F350 btw.
 
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Some of you guys just seem to want to "fix" my towing issue, but I'm not changing anything except that I won't tow that big, front heavy booger again, problem solved!
I don't want to fix anything - I hope to give you an option so you can continue to tow stuff like that big fat toy-hauler comfortably and make more money. As was mentioned before, buy one of these water bladders and lay it on the floor in the toy hauling area. Cheap, portable, light, easy to stow when not in use. Fill it with water and it will give you up to 2,127 lbs. behind the axles, reducing the RV pin weight. Drain it at the destination and throw it in the bed. Since you aren't using it for drinking out of you don't even have to worry about cleaning it like an RV user does. 264 Gallon Water Bladder

 
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I don't want to fix anything - I hope to give you an option so you can continue to tow stuff like that big fat toy-hauler comfortably and make more money. As was mentioned before, buy one of these water bladders and lay it on the floor in the toy hauling area. Cheap, portable, light, easy to stow when not in use. Fill it with water and it will give you up to 2,127 lbs. behind the axles, reducing the RV pin weight. Drain it at the destination and throw it in the bed. Since you aren't using it for drinking out of you don't even have to worry about cleaning it like an RV user does. 264 Gallon Water Bladder
I may be wrong but when moving these trailers they aren't suppose to stay in the trailer over night noless add something like a water bladder as counter weight. Imagine if somehow it sprung a leak.
 
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they can give a ticket for anything. Doesn't mean its correct. I have gotten a ticket for fuel decal, I mailed in is false and i wasnt paying, and he didn't verify my weight so it was false. Never had to pay it.

For him all he needs to do is mail in he not paying, and day they didn't verify weights for those assumptions. If they did weigh him, ask them to prove how it's over weight, and the axle and tires specs.
They don't need to weigh it. It can also go by registered weight.
 
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Originally Posted by B-ManFX4
I don't want to fix anything - I hope to give you an option so you can continue to tow stuff like that big fat toy-hauler comfortably and make more money. As was mentioned before, buy one of these water bladders and lay it on the floor in the toy hauling area. Cheap, portable, light, easy to stow when not in use. Fill it with water and it will give you up to 2,127 lbs. behind the axles, reducing the RV pin weight. Drain it at the destination and throw it in the bed. Since you aren't using it for drinking out of you don't even have to worry about cleaning it like an RV user does. 264 Gallon Water Bladder
Even if I were willing to fool with something like that, I would have no way of filling it.
Plus, as far as I know, the company only has that one big toy hauler, so I will just pass on the jobs where it would have to be picked up.
 
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Originally Posted by donovan
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Hey did see the picture of the dodge truck that broke his frame because his payload was over his limit. https://www.thedrive.com/news/broken...ad-a-big-truck
I get the point being illustrated but the pin weight of probably empty toyhauler he pulled was just about half of what that monster of a slide in weighs empty....that guy was over his payload and I would guess well over axle and tire ratings as well.




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You have a f250 and you payload does matter. You need to know your pin weight. You said 40 feet long, I would think dually for that. Have you had it on the scales fully loaded? I think that will answer the questions.
Things that can help
air bags
heavy duty(350 450 springs)
Axle change to dually.
While I agree those things could help it won't change the GVWR, GAWR or the yellow sticker on the truck.
 
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Old 10-11-2023, 07:46 AM
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I just received my next set of tires for my F-350 SCLB 6.7 Lariat and they are 33"x12.5" x 20" Load range "F" 12-ply. My truck has the optional snowplow/camper and 11,400lb GVWR packages and I have the Air Lift 7500XL bags. I'm running the OEM Michelin A/S 275/65r20 load range "E" tires at present with 42k mi on them.
It has been discussed before here on this sub, the factory Ford wheels are barely rated to the load capacity of an E series tire, much less an F. They are probably the weakest link in the chain as far as load rating.
 
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I see the weight police have come out in force.
 
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