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So the last 4 drives the message did not come up or show up on the idash. It would display after 4 miles and show up on the idash. These are the same and 2 longer drives than I have done previously.
Newbie here and have found all this information very helpful. I have been considering the Banks I-Dash, but have a question; I am leaning toward using Forscan to activate the OCR on my 2020 so that I can see the DPF filter percentage and also have the ability to turn on/off regen. Do people find the Banks an important tool for monitoring the health of the emissions control system? I can see it provides a great deal of data and information but is it necessary if the truck has the gauge for DPF % activated via Forscan? Thanks in advance for any insights.
Newbie here and have found all this information very helpful. I have been considering the Banks I-Dash, but have a question; I am leaning toward using Forscan to activate the OCR on my 2020 so that I can see the DPF filter percentage and also have the ability to turn on/off regen. Do people find the Banks an important tool for monitoring the health of the emissions control system? I can see it provides a great deal of data and information but is it necessary if the truck has the gauge for DPF % activated via Forscan? Thanks in advance for any insights.
It's not absolutely necessary, but it will let you monitor any sensor or setting that has a PID in the ECU, which is pretty dang handy, IMO. Otherwise, the only indication of whether your regen is complete is watching the DPF percentage on your dash (which in a lot of cases lags minutes behind actual operations). For example, you might think that regen is complete, but your exhaust temperatures are nowhere near cooled down yet, and you'd want to drive a little more to get those hot gases evacuated before shutting down. iDash will show those temps if you have those EGT sensors configured for display.
So the last 4 drives the message did not come up or show up on the idash. It would display after 4 miles and show up on the idash. These are the same and 2 longer drives than I have done previously.
Based upon your screenshot, you're missing EGT-4, which is the one that you really should be monitoring during regen, IMO. I believe mine is set up with EGT-1 and 4, with 1 being closest to the EGR and 4 at the DPF. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, going from memory here.
As far as iDash is concerned, I've observed on mine that it'll report the process as starting, but the temps don't really get cranking up to burn out the soot til some miles later. I reckon it depends upon the engine load as to how fast it gets up to temp. On highways it takes a little time at 1.5 RPM, for me that is.
So the last 4 drives the message did not come up or show up on the idash. It would display after 4 miles and show up on the idash. These are the same and 2 longer drives than I have done previously.
Did you take it to the dealer and have them look at it... I forget now as I post and comment on my other threads...
Based upon your screenshot, you're missing EGT-4, which is the one that you really should be monitoring during regen, IMO. I believe mine is set up with EGT-1 and 4, with 1 being closest to the EGR and 4 at the DPF. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, going from memory here.
As far as iDash is concerned, I've observed on mine that it'll report the process as starting, but the temps don't really get cranking up to burn out the soot til some miles later. I reckon it depends upon the engine load as to how fast it gets up to temp. On highways it takes a little time at 1.5 RPM, for me that is.
I just realized that he didn't have that on there (EGT4) and can monitor DEF level %... especially on a 11 to 16 truck... I gotta check that out... maybe I'll turn on my regen background alert and replace it with the DEF level % screen...
Okay so this morning I followed the instructions found on that Banks YouTube short I linked to and activated my active regen background alert. I switched the regen status slot to DPF level %. I see the OP has a level of 67%. Mine said 69% when I switched to DEF level. It bounced back and forth to 70%... I'm having doubts it's actually accurate.. Time will tell.
Newbie here and have found all this information very helpful. I have been considering the Banks I-Dash, but have a question; I am leaning toward using Forscan to activate the OCR on my 2020 so that I can see the DPF filter percentage and also have the ability to turn on/off regen. Do people find the Banks an important tool for monitoring the health of the emissions control system? I can see it provides a great deal of data and information but is it necessary if the truck has the gauge for DPF % activated via Forscan? Thanks in advance for any insights.
Originally Posted by JoeUser
It's not absolutely necessary, but it will let you monitor any sensor or setting that has a PID in the ECU, which is pretty dang handy, IMO. Otherwise, the only indication of whether your regen is complete is watching the DPF percentage on your dash (which in a lot of cases lags minutes behind actual operations). For example, you might think that regen is complete, but your exhaust temperatures are nowhere near cooled down yet, and you'd want to drive a little more to get those hot gases evacuated before shutting down. iDash will show those temps if you have those EGT sensors configured for display.
Joe nailed it...
I have a screen set up just for active regens.
Prior to going active...
Climbing the hills of the expressway during an active regen... This is where I drive to complete them... 65 mph speed zone.
Just to give you an example of temps during a regen but they get hotter than that at times...
Okay so this morning I followed the instructions found on that Banks YouTube short I linked to and activated my active regen background alert.
So, now that the regen alert is a background alert, does it pop up an indicator to show that regens are now active, and then disappear when off? Next time the regen starts, can you please snap a photo and post?
I'm considering doing the same as you (depending on what is shown when alert is triggered), as my current regen status indicator is just wasting a space I could allot to either the DEF% or another PID.
So, now that the regen alert is a background alert, does it pop up an indicator to show that regens are now active, and then disappear when off? Next time the regen starts, can you please snap a photo and post?
I'm considering doing the same as you (depending on what is shown when alert is triggered), as my current regen status indicator is just wasting a space I could allot to either the DEF% or another PID.
Will do Joe... My factory DPF % screen is enabled so I know when the truck goes active... With mine, after it goes to "FULL," it takes a mile or so before she goes active... I'll take a pic of my everyday screen set up when it goes active and how it looks for the background alert...
The DEF % dropped to 68%... Curious to see how accurate it will be.
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The DEF % jumped back up to 69% so I have serious doubts about its accuracy but I'll leave it for now to see how the background regen alert works and what it looks like Joe.. I'll take pics...
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Just received the iDash and have a question; I have set up the screen to include what others above have as their main screen including Regen status, DPF SL%, ERG1, EGR2, EGT1-4. This past weekend I activated the OCR function via Forscan and the reading says the DPF filter is 75% full, while the iDash Soot % says 21. Are these two different values? Thanks!
Just received the iDash and have a question; I have set up the screen to include what others above have as their main screen including Regen status, DPF SL%, ERG1, EGR2, EGT1-4. This past weekend I activated the OCR function via Forscan and the reading says the DPF filter is 75% full, while the iDash Soot % says 21. Are these two different values? Thanks!
2020 F250 Lariat
Mine didn't nor don't always match up but it seems at around 80% that the iDash starts climbing faster than the truck but truck always goes active when it reads FULL...
I just think the iDash is more accurate or rather detects changes in smaller increments that the truck doesn't as the trucks reads in 5 percent increments.
We know that the DPF is not completely full when the truck reads FULL or else there would be problems... There's been comments here from guys that know more than I do... Maybe they'll see this and comment.. I think I've seen a high on the iDash of close to 150%... But yeah my truck and the iDash do not always stay in sync... Plus I'm an older gen and Ford may have changed the particulate percentage software some for the newer trucks... Who knows.
I dropped it off at the dealer yesterday, they will look at it today or tomorrow. The cleaning exhaust message came up and the idash said it was on, about 35 miles into the drive regen went off. I asked about the ghost screen too.
So, now that the regen alert is a background alert, does it pop up an indicator to show that regens are now active, and then disappear when off? Next time the regen starts, can you please snap a photo and post?
I'm considering doing the same as you (depending on what is shown when alert is triggered), as my current regen status indicator is just wasting a space I could allot to either the DEF% or another PID.
So had an active regen today and it came at 138%, iDash SL, shortly after when the truck went FULL. Usually the iDash soot load is 141 to 142% when it goes full on truck... So when it went active there was a big box that popped up and said REGEN I believe... I'll pay more attention on the next one. Here's a pic of the regen background alert for the rest of the regen.
Going to keep the DEF level % going and see what happens with it... if it's not accurate or I don't like it, I'll figure out another PID to place there and keep the regen background alert going...
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