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Old Sep 26, 2023 | 06:56 AM
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I installed the Banks intake system with about 70,000 miles on the truck.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Conyers
I installed the Banks intake system with about 70,000 miles on the truck.
so you had 70k miles on the it filter?

 
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 09:03 AM
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Update on the pusher intake…….

ive burned out 2 map sensors so far…one was a new one I had installed and the other the previous install that I ultrasound cleaned.

not sure what is going on….dont know if it is the heat from OCR, or just heat from normal everyday.


we do idle a lot here in nyc.

engine bay temps get high if the truck is not rolling.


the architecture of this intake is that the egr is on the left side as you look back on the engine while standing at the front. The egr connection tube seems to be pointed straight at the right side engine intake port …the map sensor is on the left tube so it’s not line of sight getting sprayed with most of the the air.

i installed the S&B map spacer hoping it would get the map sensor further away from this egr hear spray.


going to by a new map sensor and try the spacer.

there is enough room for a second spacer which I’ll try is the new map sensor burns out.

getting mixed feelings…pusher claims this intake is for a stock truck but…seems to me if they are going to use a Venturi type egr connection…they may need to move the map sensor in between the egr joint and butterfly valve.

or, it could just be me from OCR’s. Sometimes I like to clear the dpf out before a long trip just to see how the % build up looks. May have to get out of the ocr buisness.

vented hood might need to float up to the top of needed upgrades.

just wanted to post before we get an epidemic of blown map sensors.



 
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Oh. I misunderstood. I changed my MC air filter with each oil change. So less than 10k on the MC filter before i changed to the Banks system.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Update on the pusher intake…….

ive burned out 2 map sensors so far…one was a new one I had installed and the other the previous install that I ultrasound cleaned.

not sure what is going on….dont know if it is the heat from OCR, or just heat from normal everyday.


we do idle a lot here in nyc.

engine bay temps get high if the truck is not rolling.


the architecture of this intake is that the egr is on the left side as you look back on the engine while standing at the front. The egr connection tube seems to be pointed straight at the right side engine intake port …the map sensor is on the left tube so it’s not line of sight getting sprayed with most of the the air.

i installed the S&B map spacer hoping it would get the map sensor further away from this egr hear spray.


going to by a new map sensor and try the spacer.

there is enough room for a second spacer which I’ll try is the new map sensor burns out.

getting mixed feelings…pusher claims this intake is for a stock truck but…seems to me if they are going to use a Venturi type egr connection…they may need to move the map sensor in between the egr joint and butterfly valve.

or, it could just be me from OCR’s. Sometimes I like to clear the dpf out before a long trip just to see how the % build up looks. May have to get out of the ocr buisness.

vented hood might need to float up to the top of needed upgrades.

just wanted to post before we get an epidemic of blown map sensors.
Venting the hood definitely won't hurt as there's nothing wrong with reducing Underwood temps especially now it seems as if the Pusher has made them increase...

Here's a pic I took when I was getting ready to do my S&S kit...


Here the EGR gases are fed into the intake with the fresh intake air and the cold feed from the CAC together... That had to be done for a reason, to reduce the temp of the exhaust gases coming into the intake. Don't know if I'm right but just brainstorming here...


On the Pusher, it's fed in after the CAC air so it would seem that this allows the hot gases to directly come in contact with the sensor without the benefit of merging with the CAC cold feed and the fresh air to allow the EGR gas temps to drop some... Just my 2 cents...


 
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 04:07 PM
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Also think there is some heat decision in the big black plastic apparatus before it gets to the map.


pusher said on one hand 189/192 temps at the map mounting base is normal…but then they said hotter than touchable heat surfaces could be egr cooler problem.


so I checked my coolant density on both the egr and engine tank and both were not 50/50, according to coolant guage.

it was closer to 60. Coolant / 40 water, so corrected that. New map sensor will be here on wens. Options in my mind …a second map spacer….the vented hood….or even take the pusher intake off and use it as a train horn.

 
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Also think there is some heat decision in the big black plastic apparatus before it gets to the map.


pusher said on one hand 189/192 temps at the map mounting base is normal…but then they said hotter than touchable heat surfaces could be egr cooler problem.


so I checked my coolant density on both the egr and engine tank and both were not 50/50, according to coolant guage.

it was closer to 60. Coolant / 40 water, so corrected that. New map sensor will be here on wens. Options in my mind …a second map spacer….the vented hood….or even take the pusher intake off and use it as a train horn.
Personally I think it's because it's cheaper because it's plastic plus lighter but WTH do I know?

As to the coolant/water ratio, I don't know that that would affect this but again, who knows?

As to their answer of a EGR cooler problem, sure it's possible, but I don't recall you having EGR cooler problems before the Pusher...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 09:56 PM
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I never laser heat gun my stock setup so I don’t know if map mount area temps of 189 - 192 are normal.

hoping new MAP sensor and the map spacer will do the trick.

 
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I'm wondering if it was not designed for the EGR being intact.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2023 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
I'm wondering if it was not designed for the EGR being intact.

this pusher intake is for stock vehicles…it has the connection for the egr.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2023 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
I'm wondering if it was not designed for the EGR being intact.
They have a race version of this intake that doesn't include the flanged pipe like Fritz has on his that's designed for the EGR pipe to bolt to.



This is from their page on Fritz's version.



I want to see you resolve this Fritz because it's BS that you would have to shelf this expensive intake to become a paperweight. Maybe the methanol injection will help cool temps?
 

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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
I never laser heat gun my stock setup so I don’t know if map mount area temps of 189 - 192 are normal.

hoping new MAP sensor and the map spacer will do the trick.
Hoping that does the trick Fritz.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2023 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
this pusher intake is for stock vehicles…it has the connection for the egr.
I understand that. I'm questioning how much R&D they did in real world environments, with or without EGRs.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2023 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
I understand that. I'm questioning how much R&D they did in real world environments, with or without EGRs.

good question…

 
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Old Oct 3, 2023 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
I understand that. I'm questioning how much R&D they did in real world environments, with or without EGRs.
this. almost like they tossed the egr on just to verify fitment. but did all the testing on a deleted truck.
 
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