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It's interesting that the Honda inverter/generator units that are likely to be used with an RV do not support dual fuel or even single fuel propane. My next iteration of trailer may not allow me to put as much PV on the roof and it may not come with an on-board generator. If that's the case, a Honda generator that uses propane would be my preference. A generator that gets used a couple times a year is a good use case for propane.
I bought my Champion, the same one pictured above ( get 3500 and 3100 confused, mine is 3100), when I had a 30 AMP RV. It ran the entire trailer, AC and Electric WH without issues. I now have a dual AC 50 AMP and it will run both AC as long as I start the front one first, the rear one has soft start. I need to get another soft start installed on the front AC, then both can be run on 30 AMP without tripping the Bulldog.
I bought my Champion, the same one pictured above ( get 3500 and 3100 confused, mine is 3100), when I had a 30 AMP RV. It ran the entire trailer, AC and Electric WH without issues. I now have a dual AC 50 AMP and it will run both AC as long as I start the front one first, the rear one has soft start. I need to get another soft start installed on the front AC, then both can be run on 30 AMP without tripping the Bulldog.
You make a good point on the soft start option. For those that may not know, your A/Cs have the most draw on your power source but turning it on usually requires a higher spike in power that can be mitigated by purchasing a "Soft Start" installation in your A/C. Once the A/C starts the wattage goes back down to a manageable level the generator can handle. The soft start reduces that that spike in power allowing for more modest Generators to handle the Peak start up wattage required, particularly when you have more than one A/C.
I don't think there's any wrong choice here. They will all provide some form of soft start that will be better than what you have without it for sure. I need to do it too.
That is a great option and I too thank travlingman for sharing it with us. Although, as I get older, lazier and more forgetful, I tend to go for the products that are more of a "set it and forget it" nature. Something like the MicroAir hard wire products or the Progressive Industries EMS are key for the survival of my oldness, laziness and forgetfulness.
To each their own and I encourage everyone to find a solution that works for them in both the easy start and energy/power management areas.
That is a great option and I too thank travlingman for sharing it with us. Although, as I get older, lazier and more forgetful, I tend to go for the products that are more of a "set it and forget it" nature. Something like the MicroAir hard wire products or the Progressive Industries EMS are key for the survival of my oldness, laziness and forgetfulness.
To each their own and I encourage everyone to find a solution that works for them in both the easy start and energy/power management areas.
I agree with this, but the thought of I can take this expensive thing with me is very appealing.
I am bit leery of a soft start that is at the plug and not the point of consumption. It is not inline with the compressor like a hardwire unit and could be hard on the wires leading to the AC unit as the compressor is going to try to start as normal and still try to pull full amps. Think of an undercurrent (brownout) condition and the extra heat it can produce in the lines. It sounds like a good idea, but I would feel better with it where it needs to be, directly inline between the controller and compressor.
I am bit leery of a soft start that is at the plug and not the point of consumption. It is not inline with the compressor like a hardwire unit and could be hard on the wires leading to the AC unit as the compressor is going to try to start as normal and still try to pull full amps. Think of an undercurrent (brownout) condition and the extra heat it can produce in the lines. It sounds like a good idea, but I would feel better with it where it needs to be, directly inline between the controller and compressor.
I don't have a soft start. But if I did, it would be in the AC unit like the Micro-Air EasyStart, mainly for the reason you posted.
I didn't know about that portable soft start til just now, but I am still glad that I wired an Easy Start into my AC unit. Not only for the reasons mentioned above, but also so that it was one less thing I had to worry about leaving behind or getting stolen. It's the same reason I opted for a hardwired EMS unit rather than a plug in EMS unit.
Excellent choice also. The Westinghouse IGEN 4500 is a rebranded copy of the Onan and also gets similar ratings.
I also use the Onan 4500i, grabbed it off Facebook market place for $400 with 19 hours!!! I also have a Predator 3500 inverter and a Honda 2000 that we will use depending on the season and AC usage, I installed a softstart on our main AC and the honda handles it fine.
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