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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 04:49 PM
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6.8 V8 engine

Not really sure where I should put this post. But does anyone know if there will be a section added to discuss the 6.8L V8 that'll be replacing the 6.2 for the 2023my and beyond? Also does anyone know what the internal code name for this engine is? I've been waiting for more info on this engine, but still haven't heard much more about it since it's debut. What about the power and torque numbers? I mean here we are it's 2023 and there's still crickets surrounding this engine. It's like no one cares at all about this engine. I;d really like to know more other than it's basically a destroked and detuned 7.3.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 05:11 PM
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As with the other engine series with multiple displacements, it will probably just be under this forum. (302-351W or 360-390 or 370-429-460)

No one has popped up running one yet afaik.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by paredneck33
Not really sure where I should put this post. But does anyone know if there will be a section added to discuss the 6.8L V8 that'll be replacing the 6.2 for the 2023my and beyond? Also does anyone know what the internal code name for this engine is? I've been waiting for more info on this engine, but still haven't heard much more about it since it's debut. What about the power and torque numbers? I mean here we are it's 2023 and there's still crickets surrounding this engine. It's like no one cares at all about this engine. I;d really like to know more other than it's basically a destroked and detuned 7.3.
Haven't really heard much about it but I'm thinking Ford needed a smaller motor for to replace the 6.2 that's had a great run but is just to wide to fit in a lot of applications. Being a shorter stroke motor for faster rpm and will give them more room on the sides of the motor I for see a turbo version in the future . We also own a 2020 F150 and 2.7 V6 twin turbo and it's amazing and I would like to see a 6.8 twin turbo would be like, maybe wishful thinking.

Denny
 
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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 08:24 PM
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what concerns me about the 6.8 is not the motor but rather the 10R100 transmission they built just for the 6.8. Considering Ford is limiting the 6.8 to be only available in XL trims, I am wondering how many shortcuts were taken to make the lower cost worth the R&D and parts sourcing, when the 7.3, and even the F350 6.2, have been running on the slightly cost-cut version of the 10R140 for 3 model years now.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 10:50 PM
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what concerns me about the 6.8 is not the motor but rather the 10R100 transmission they built just for the 6.8. Considering Ford is limiting the 6.8 to be only available in XL trims, I am wondering how many shortcuts were taken to make the lower cost worth the R&D and parts sourcing, when the 7.3, and even the F350 6.2, have been running on the slightly cost-cut version of the 10R140 for 3 model years now.
The way I understand it, is the 6.8 literally is just destroked and detuned version of the 7.3. But I'd still like to know more about both the engine and transmission.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 07:27 AM
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Main difference is it has a shorter stroke, from what I can read on the internet press releases.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 10:16 AM
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Auto magazines are in agreement reporting 405HP and 445TQ for new 6.8. I hear hit and miss that 6.8 will have cast iron crank. Twobelugas has valid points about the 10R100 transmission.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2023 | 11:29 AM
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Cast crank and the f150 transmission. That's is what I read from Ford's.
 
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The 6.8 has slightly higher compression and that could help with fuel economy.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 06:51 PM
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@Grass Lake Ron Is correct, IIRC. The 6.8 has a few "downgrades", not just a derate. The transmission is another big downside. Let the municipalities save a dime by buying the cheapest truck and save yourself some regret by buying the premium gasser.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 07:23 PM
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Just the fact they are only using it in an XL version tells me a lot already.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 07:57 AM
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Id say couple it with the 7.3L forum. Only being offered in the XL I cant imagine enough users are going to have this engine to warrant its own forum. $1700 less than the 7.3L option, id keep the $1700 and take the 6.8L/10R100 over the 7.3L/10R140. I will put money down that in identical trucks you wouldnt even notice the difference between the two powertrains. I know I dont notice a difference between the 6.2L/10R140 and 7.3L/10R140 in the F350 fleet trucks ive driven.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 10:09 AM
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I know I dont notice a difference between the 6.2L/10R140 and 7.3L/10R140 in the F350 fleet trucks ive driven.
Really? I've not driven the 6.2 but from 98% of everything I've read there's quite the difference between the 6.2 and 7.3..... The numbers on paper seem to support that as well.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 10:29 AM
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Really? I've not driven the 6.2 but from 98% of everything I've read there's quite the difference between the 6.2 and 7.3..... The numbers on paper seem to support that as well.
The great majority of the Comparisions are being made by people that only have experience with the 6 speed transmission. Not many of us can actually make a comparison between a 10spd 6.2l and 7.3l in identical trim. I ordered all 6.2L trucks after a few months drive time with both.

And I have yet to see on this site the power curve graph of the 2nd gen 6.2L 2017-2022. When comparing the 7.3L to the 6.2L I always see people posting the 1st gen 6.2L power curve. The 2nd gen 6.2L power curve is much more usable than the 1st gen and not far off from the 7.3L.

I cant imagine any noticable difference in performance between the 6.8L and 7.3L with a ten speed behind them, unless Ford really changes the 10R100 ratios drastically.
 

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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 11:02 AM
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I have an XL with the 7.3, crank windows and all. Just the way I wanted it. With Ford doing away with manual windows there is no reason to get the XL if you want a 7.3. The cost upgrade bring to buying an XLT. I would look at two things: 1) see if anybody is having problems with the f150 transmission pulling the weight you intend to pull. 2) look long and hard at what you want to do.

Personally I will never pull 20,000+ lbs of anything, but I have a 7.3 and 4.30's so pulling 10,000 is easy on me and the truck.
 
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