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Old Jan 6, 2023 | 12:31 PM
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^^^^^
Agreed. The 10spd truck is a much much better than the 6spd. You can't knock the 6spd reliability but, I'd take the 10spd every time.

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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 07:10 AM
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I would like to see a 6.8 in an F150
For sure , i think the 5.0 engine run is about done after 12 years and the 6.8 is slated for F150 . Would not surprise me 2024 , at least im hoping

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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 07:15 AM
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For sure , i think the 5.0 engine run is about done after 12 years and the 6.8 is slated for F150 . Would not surprise me 2024 , at least im hoping

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Maybe in the Raptor trim, but seeing as the F150 has to conform to CAFE standards I doubt Ford will go with a 6.8L vs a smaller displacement like the 5.0L with better fuel economy. Of course the possibility is there, but since the first gen 6.2L Ford has kept their HD gas engines completely separate from the F150 engines because of CAFE reasons.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2023 | 05:10 PM
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What baffles me is why the 6.8 even exists. It's a slightly detuned (25 HP) version of the 7.3 so why even spend the money on producing the second engine? Just make the 7.3 the standard and leave it at that. There will be guys who download a $400 aftermarket tune to their 6.8s and BOOM they've got 7.3 levels of power in 60 seconds. It's just completely pointless to offer both of these engines.

What I AM happy about is that FINALLY starting with 2023 it'll be easy to find a gas Super Duty on the used market with the 7.3 engine. Through 2022 it's been maddening because visually there is no way to tell a 6.2 from a 7.3 so you have to click on each listing and look at engine pictures while searching used trucks. Very annoying. With 2023+ that issue is gone.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2023 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
Maybe in the Raptor trim, but seeing as the F150 has to conform to CAFE standards I doubt Ford will go with a 6.8L vs a smaller displacement like the 5.0L with better fuel economy. Of course the possibility is there, but since the first gen 6.2L Ford has kept their HD gas engines completely separate from the F150 engines because of CAFE reasons.
CAFE imposes fines but if the number of units is small enough and the margin is big enough, anything is possible. That's why GM still offers 6.2 V8s in their high end GMCs, and I'm not sure if force induction 5.2 in the Raptor R is more fuel efficient than a NA 6.8.

Seeing how people seem to have no problem throwing down 90k for a 3.5TT Raptor, a 6.8 could easily be considered if they can upcharge at the level of the raptor which easily overlaps some of the Limited trim trucks. Remember that while Fords always commanded a premium over GM and Rams, it wasn't until recently that F150s are bumping up against the 100k mark so easily, the math of fine vs profit has changed.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2023 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
What baffles me is why the 6.8 even exists. It's a slightly detuned (25 HP) version of the 7.3 so why even spend the money on producing the second engine? Just make the 7.3 the standard and leave it at that. There will be guys who download a $400 aftermarket tune to their 6.8s and BOOM they've got 7.3 levels of power in 60 seconds. It's just completely pointless to offer both of these engines.

What I AM happy about is that FINALLY starting with 2023 it'll be easy to find a gas Super Duty on the used market with the 7.3 engine. Through 2022 it's been maddening because visually there is no way to tell a 6.2 from a 7.3 so you have to click on each listing and look at engine pictures while searching used trucks. Very annoying. With 2023+ that issue is gone.
well...hang on there, don't get so excited about the 23s just yet, the 6.8 comes with a, um, different, transmission than the 7.3 and no one has seen on in person yet and no one knows how durable it is. So if you are not ruling out getting an XL with the 6.8 and add a tune, may want to wait and see how the tranny does first.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2023 | 09:59 AM
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If you wonder why the 6.8 think Fleets. Large corporations, Governments buy them by the 1000s at low bid so a few hundred $ saved by a smaller motor or lighter transmission could make the difference between a large contract or nothing. I'm sure some have a max motor size and the 7.3 was to big. I'm sure there are already some out there in fleet serve now.

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Old Feb 18, 2023 | 10:08 AM
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The 10R100 will do just fine; and will likely be smoother and more fuel efficient.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2023 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
If you wonder why the 6.8 think Fleets. Large corporations, Governments buy them by the 1000s at low bid so a few hundred $ saved by a smaller motor or lighter transmission could make the difference between a large contract or nothing. I'm sure some have a max motor size and the 7.3 was to big. I'm sure there are already some out there in fleet serve now.

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The dealer I used to order trucks from always posted Ford F series (F150-F750) annual sales numbers. The last time I dealt with them they had the 2015 sales numbers published and the Fleet sales were more than half of the annual sales for the entire F series in 2015. It was pretty much the same for every year since 2003 when I started ordering Fleet vehicles. I have not seen the data since 2016 but I cant imagine much has changed. Any of the Fleets that I deal with regularly purchased the 6.2L up until it was discontinued and im sure they will all be ordering the 6.8L over the 7.3L going forward.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2023 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
The dealer I used to order trucks from always posted Ford F series (F150-F750) annual sales numbers. The last time I dealt with them they had the 2015 sales numbers published and the Fleet sales were more than half of the annual sales for the entire F series in 2015. It was pretty much the same for every year since 2003 when I started ordering Fleet vehicles. I have not seen the data since 2016 but I cant imagine much has changed. Any of the Fleets that I deal with regularly purchased the 6.2L up until it was discontinued and im sure they will all be ordering the 6.8L over the 7.3L going forward.
All the manufacturers know that the fleet market is always there because they don't sit in a garage being shiny, they are out doing work everyday until they are to worn out to be useful and put it to pasture or sold to someone that doesn't work them so hard. It's also very competitive market so every $ counts.

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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 07:59 PM
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I’m curious to see the hp & torque curves for the 6.8. 20hp and 15 tq over my 19 6.2 doesn’t excite me much. Not that it matters, next new rig I’ll go straight for the 7.3 since it’s the gas option for 450/550 CC.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2023 | 12:04 PM
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if the 6.8 costs a few hundred bucks less to build, and gets 1mpg better on paper, that's a pretty big deal for a large fleet buyers. Total Cost Of Ownership calculations are a very big deal for fleets.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2023 | 10:10 AM
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If I was looking to purchase an F-150, I'd definitely consider the 6.8L if it was an option. Old school push rod simplicity, durability, reliability.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2023 | 11:30 AM
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WUT? that's not going in an F150.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 05:11 AM
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I would think the 6.8 will last longer then the 7.3 and still give plenty of power and torque. Any tuned down motor will.
 
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